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My fandom has daddy issues. And mommy issues. And issue issues.



The time-lapse fade on that establishing shot makes me happy. So understated and pretty.

"Julie wouldn't just disappear."

So today, we are here to undermine the teen slasher flick, and its ingrained tropes problematizing female sexuality. The madonna/whore complex took a beating in this one...

"You want me drunk and naked, just say so." Woman with powerful sexuality is the target, of course... but then what happens?

And then we cut to another powerful woman, and her crushing piles of necessary work. "I'm confident that they'll feel the same way." Of course they will, Jaje, because you are the secret mastermind of the B.A.U. (Drink!)

"Decomp indicated that she had been dead just over a week." JJ is upset, little catch in her throat. People preying on young rural women gets to her; she's seeing herself in the victim's faces.

"What's he been doing for the past 27 years?"

That's one of those killer lines right there: "It's a party."

And Hotch with the Anne Sexton quote, and what a quote it is. "It doesn't matter who my father was. It matters who I remember he was." There's a fabulous bit of thematic reinforcing for the whole season, right there--the layered synchronicities just keep piling up.

Gorgeous reaction shot of JJ while Reid is flipping through files and reading aloud in the background.

The bit in the mine, where Molly goes from being the flip creature she was before the abduction to somebody being strong for another is wonderful. There's an echo through this episode of women protecting other women, and their children--for right or wrong--that's very powerful. The intense dignity of all these female characters is really telling.

CotW Jr. "This case broke him."
Reid: "How so?"
CotW Jr. "Same old. Started drinking. Marriage busted up."

Okay, fabulous supporting cast this ep. And the parallel today is JJ/victims, Rossi/derelict cop

Paget Brewster looks fabulous in burgundy, too. /shallow

"He's definitely local."

And how much do I love my show for the male character (Okay, so he's Mom, but he's still a boy) stepping up to be emotionally supportive of a female character--who isn't breaking down, who is shutting up and soldiering--and admitting his own flaws and emotional distance, while developing the ongoing theme that a culture of silence is maybe not the best culture to have?

"Most of the victims are women. And most of them are about your age. It's okay if you lose it every once in a while. It reminds people that we're human."
"You never lose it."
"Maybe I should have."

Hotch = LOOOVE
("You lead by example." "And what kind of an example is that?")
Another thing I love: this show does not valorize the protagonist's defense mechanisms. It acknowledges that they are defense mechanisms, and that they work and don't work, and there's no pretense of either the bulletproof superhero stereotype *or* the broken ineffectual cop stereotype. They're human, and they're decent, and they're all incredibly tough--but they're all broken, too, and there's no way they can do this job without feeling it.

<3
The more they give A.J. Cook to do, the more I am impressed with her acting ability. She's understated and soft-sells it, but she gets a lot of emotion into a very professional exterior. She and Gibson play off each other really well, too--I suspect because both of their characters are so buttoned down, the echoes of tightness and self-control become unbearable.

And today, we ruin the Rolling Stones. Okay, as picking famously mysogynistic musicians go, that's a 10...

Molly's courage in trying to defend Julie is very sharp.

JJ with the tough-girl ponytail, stepping up to rescue CotW Jr., is lovely.
"I've got two sets of parents waiting for an I.D."
"I can help you with that."
Because that's what JJ does. She soaks up everybody else's damage and converts it to compassion, and sometimes salvation.

"He's basically saying I'm doing this, and there's nothing you can do to stop me."

Hotch is figuring out that if this guy is 60, he's a pretty exceptional sixty-year-old.

The fade from Molly screaming in the cave to the silence and peace of the forest--and the signature CM raptor scream. ;-)

The parallel between Rossi and CotW Sr. is maybe a little strongly drawn, but it does get a development in the Rossi backstory. And again, a second episode in a row where Rossi doesn't make me want to drown him.
"Last year, not one of them bothered to return my call."
Yeah, Dave. Because part of healing is moving on, dude, and letting go of your demons.
Those kids are getting better.

Oh, Pen. You look tired and hurt, and I miss your vivacious flirtatiousness.
But I bet, not as much as you and your team-mates do.
Garcia cracks the case!

"FBI!"
The actress playing the surviving victim, Karen Foley, is fabulous. And the muscle jumping in Morgan's jaw is fabulous, too. Yeah, he knows why she'd lie about it. *Shemarloff*

One thing that makes me happy about this show is that so many of the actors seem to have a strong sense of narrative, and how people's trauma influences everything about how they react. You can tell that Moore has internalized Morgan's backstory and made it part of everything he does with that character, and it's magic.

"Whatever did happen, you survived it." (refrain, drink!)

"I'm not a lead." (I'm not a victim. I'm a person.)

"She couldn't open that door. Afraid she'd never come back."
"Right now, the only person she's protecting is the offender." Oh, Em, how wrong you are.

Morgan and Rossi crack the case. Just keep asking why, man.
"He died."

And Rossi, Morgan, and Prentiss manipulating CotW Sr. into naming the UNSUB. "You know him, John."

"He fell into his combine harvester."

And the actress playing Mary Wilkinson is absolutely incredible, too. Her facial expressions while she's lying to Rossi and the CotW are just... stunning. (I was in chat with [info]stillsostrange while watching this the first time, and halfway through this scene I crowed, "SHE KILLED HIM!" Nice freaking work, guys. That's the thing John Gardner talks about--describing a scene from the POV of a killer while never mentioning that he's a killer, and letting the audience know exactly what happened by implication. Beauty.)

"I've never felt sorry for myself."
"Most women who are widowed young considered themselves victims."

"I dunno. He died the day I went back." eheheheheheeee.

"She suspected him."

The fact that Morgan actually says "Madonna/whore complex," and then the entire episode is structured to undermine that idea, is just fucking beautiful.

Homicidal triad! Drink!

Garcia cracks the case!

(Hah! Stephen. Another one of those CM names...)

"Four girls are missing, and someone doesn't notice an abandoned car." JJ's tone there is the exact mirror of Reid's tone in "Sex Birth Death." "You didn't even look!" Our guys are so scandalized when people do not intervene. I love them for that.

"Is this about what he did to my mom?" Oh, he's a good kid. Tough and forgiving and protecting her as much as she protects him.
And again with the theme of people broken by horrible experiences, who somehow pick themselves up, pull their pieces together, and go on to make the world better for somebody else.
Human decency is an act of supreme courage.

"They were really great stories."
This scene is right up there with the informing-the-father scene in "Open Season" and Frank realizing he could have saved his sister's family in "The Fox" as one of those absolutely brilliant survivors-of-violence moments this show does so well.

"I don't want to doubt you."

"The cops didn't believe your story?"

Hotch and Reid turn in unison and look at the barn. Oh, dear.
(And Reid is stuffing his face at the crime scene. Chew, chew....)

I am pretty sure this is a redress of the barn they used in "No Way Out."

Spencer? Trigger. Trigger? Spencer. Oh, I see you have already met.
Flashbulb memory. Drink!
You know, along with Shemar Moore, Matthew Gray Gubler has really blossomed as an actor over the course of this show. He's got no dialogue at all in this scene, and everything you need to know is there in his body language and the way he's standing there staring at the manacles and the bottles of booze.
And an image right out of a Tom Waits song, hello. ("There's always some kind of killing to do around a farm.")

"Don't you want to know why?"

JJ cracks the case!
Reid's looking particularly disheveled this ep. Spottily shaven and uncombed.

"You survived this once and it made you stronger." Emily, speaking ex cathedra as Emily Prentiss there.

The confrontation between Mary and Karen is just fantastic.

Chrissy fiddling with her wedding ring and thinking, thinking. "Will you be here when Charlie comes home?"

Cognitive interview! Which is, more or less, inducing a flashback. Drink!
And Karen and Mary crack the case. (Should I be creeped out that my mom is Karen, and she has a sister named Mary?)
God, the women in this ep are fabulous.
The young actress here is not as strong as the two older ones... but who the hell could be? Man. The look Mary gives her at the end there is the most fabulous thing ever. Understanding and forgiveness and solidarity. Wow.

So the bad girls don't die, and they band together to protect each other. And the good girls can kill.
And we still don't know what makes two identical people break in different ways--one into a monster, and the other into a hero.

"If you stop caring you're jaded. If you care too much it'll ruin you."

"You did everything you could." (Refrain.) "Some times we get it right, with a little luck, and most of the time we don't. That's the job."
...I love my show. My show gets cops. And trauma survivors. O yes it does.

"I believe it's never perfect."

"These last killings weren't your fault."

The coda on this ep is awfully nice too.
"Who's up for a drink?"
"Who's up for five?"
And Rossi hanging out with the team.
"Ooo, I don't know."
JJ has too much work to do. It's all on her. :-(
Heh. And another nudge to the Reid-addiction plotline. Ever so subtle, and so open to interpretation.
But if he were in AA/NA, he'd say "I'm in recovery."

Okay, having Hotch served at work? Tacky as shit.
And Prentiss asks the awkward question, because it's what Prentiss does.

In the original script of this ep, there was a subplot involving Rossi's umpteenth divorce and his developing professional relationship with Prentiss, and I'm kind of sorry we didn't get to see that. So sad!

Still, it's the nature of the beast. The only thing that matters is what makes it into the final edit--book, movie, or TV.



And next week's ep is the last new one for Some Time, it looks like. I think they have one more in the can, but it looks like the networks are holding on to those for February sweeps.

Comments

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[info]zippitgood wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 07:06 pm (UTC)
I love your commentaries on the episodes.

Where do you find your info on the original scripts? I find those little tidbits very interesting to learn about.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 07:12 pm (UTC)
Thank you! They are fun to write.

That one I heard from the writers of the episode, Deb and Erica, who sometimes stop by the Criminal Minds Fanatic message board chat room and hang out a little.

They were sad it had been lost....
[info]erinya wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 07:07 pm (UTC)
I miss this show. :-(
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 07:12 pm (UTC)
:-(

Have you no access to eps?
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[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 07:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah. So whatever it is, it's not that.

And Morgan obviously has not twigged to any potential drug problem, even if Hotch and Emily have.
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[info]spike21 wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 07:25 pm (UTC)
"Last year, not one of them bothered to return my call."
Yeah, Dave. Because part of healing is moving on, dude, and letting go of your demons.
Those kids are getting better.

I spent a long time thinking about this line and I interpreted it thusly:
It *sounds* like Rossi is being petulant here, because of the 'bothered' which implies a lack of concern on the part of the kids and I think that this is how Rossi *wants* it to be, in some very childish part of him -- he *is* after all the champion on the victims. But I think the underlying truth of the sentence is that it reflects what he feels most deeply about this case: his own failure to do his part. That the kids don't bother to return his call because they've utterly lost faith in him and even were they grasping at straws, they wouldn't look in his direction -- that's how badly he feels he's failed.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 07:33 pm (UTC)
Yup. I don't think he's being petulant at all there: I think he's dripping self-loathing.

And I think what's really going on is that the survivors have begun letting go, finally. But because he hasn't, he can't accept that.

Rossi's a bit of a bulldog.
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[info]txanne wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 08:01 pm (UTC)
Oh, Jaje, please don't self-destruct! I would cry!

"He died the day I came back," said she. Said I, "Because you KILLED him!" The non-CM fan I was watching with looked at me askance. (I think I should lend her my DVDs, don't you?)

I think Rossi was pushing CotW Sr. harder than he needed to, in the "you know him" part. Backstory or no, I still can't stand him. And I did read him as petulant about the kids "not bothering."

Oh, Hotch, please don't self-destruct! I would cry!

My show trusts that its audience will understand the complicated stuff. I love my show.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 08:11 pm (UTC)
Nah. They hang on by their fingernails. It's what they do.
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[info]zodiacal_light wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 08:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I was totally sure Mary'd killed her husband from the first time we saw her. Usually, my predictions for a CM episode are wrong, so I was really surprised that I got that one right.

The scene between Karen and her son had me almost in tears, and I usually don't cry over tv.

And on a completely shallow note, I'm a bit of a Civil War geek, so every mention of the battlefield had me grinning.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 08:32 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I mean, I love my show. *g*

That was too broad a hint to miss, knowing as we do that this is fiction.
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[info]decarnin wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 08:59 pm (UTC)
Oh well, I guess process servers go where they can find the person, and with Hotch, that's gonna be at work. Plus, of course, serving the drama.

I was thinking looking at those women at the end (one pregnant) -- I totally don't believe in inheriting serial killerness, and these Moms, would they raise one? But mainly I was thinking: gad, good luck kid, your father and your grandfather were killers, *and so were your mother and your grandmother*. gah.
[info]bessemerprocess wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 02:19 am (UTC)
Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking. Genetically, that poor kid has gotten bad start. However, so did the half-brother, and he turned out pretty decent. Except for the alcoholism that they all seemed to have, which seemed to be echoing the nature/nurture theme. Yes, both boys were predisposed to be alcoholics, and they both went down that path, but they both would've been predisposed towards killing, and one of them didn't.

Whether or not the fact that mom killed dad is nature or nurture, well, that I'm not sure about. Either way, even though neither mom told their son about who their father *really* was, that decision changed their lives.
[info]saoba wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 09:14 pm (UTC)
First off, when no one is here to watch this with me I talk to the dog. Which confuses the dog because he doesn't get things like 'ooh, flattened affect much?' and he doesn't understand why I stop talking to him to talk to the television. 'Because you killed him! Combine accident? Ha!'

Any way, JJ has, if not The Job From Hell, at least A Job From Hell. That is not a slush pile I'd care to have to wade through. But it's nice to see that Mom understands.

Hotch, King of the Buttoned Down Buttoned Up People, trying to tell JJ 'I see what you did there'. So much love.

A very good therapist I had once told me 'Never despise your coping mechanisms. They keep you alive while you figure out what to do.' I think he'd like this show.

The echoes in this one- mothers and children, fathers and children, Karen protecting her son from knowing about his father and him finding out what had happened to her. 'They were really great stories.' Love and grace, letting her believe she had succeeded in keeping the darkness from her child. She's his Big Damn Hero and he becomes one for her in that moment.

She went back to the barn to try to help. Went back to her memories of hell. The team was so good there.

And the victims in the barn earlier, making their pact not to let their families know what had been done to them- children protecting their parents, or trying to.

Karen and Mary's scene outside the barn, wow. Guilt and pain and confession.

Reid's face as he looked at the manacles. We all know it's not a good place, but Reid remembers being in a bad place. This is when I said to the dog 'If he's not still using, this could send him back.'

And sons and legacies and the stories we make up or hand down and the bloody ground of history just beyond the back fence.

Karen carved herself a guardian angel in the shape of a peace sign, a peace sign in hell that she could touch like a promise.

One of the victims told the other to disassociate, to go somewhere else in her head when it was happening. And my heart broke, because sometimes all you can do is hand on another coping mechanism.

Stories everywhere. Stories on JJ's desk from different cops asking for the BAU's help. Mary's story that 'he died the day I came home'. Karen's stories for her son, stories he loved her for telling even when he learned they weren't true. Stories withheld, promises not to tell to protect the families they didn't think they'd live to see. And finally Rossi's story about a promise he'd made and hadn't been able to keep.

Love and monsters, and what happens when you have to choose. Mary's expression, as she stared at her pregnant daughter in law there at the end. She's run that equation herself, she knows how cold it is.

Hotch getting served at work. Talk about hit him where he lives.



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[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 13th, 2007 09:25 pm (UTC)
Yes. The coping mechanisms. JJ's, Hotch's, Rossi's, the CotW, the girls in the cave--

Dissociation, caring, love. Karen reacting to the smell in the barn--and Reid, who knows the same horror, walking in there (just like her: they're the same, aren't they?)--to save somebody else.

Hotch rescuing Reid from his memories without making it look like a rescue.

And the stories. Absolutely. And the promises not to tell. Children protecting parents and parents protecting children.

This one rings like a *bell* with the harmonics.
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[info]ungemmed wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 12:06 am (UTC)
What I thought was interesting was watching their faces at the end, when the papers were served--Reid and JJ had guessed. Prentiss was the only one who needed to ask.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 12:15 am (UTC)
And Morgan knew.

It's Emily's job to ask the question. It's what she's there for.

Socially awkward geek, and without Reid's finely-hones sense of how to manipulate people around him.
[info]raphael0877 wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 01:40 am (UTC)
"Okay, having Hotch served at work? Tacky as shit."

I wasn't surprised at all. Haley's primary source of anger has been Hotch's job, so what better place to serve him than at her "rival"? She and/or the process server probably figured, where else would he be? Unfortunately it didn't seem to come as any surprise to him; he appeared to be expecting it. Bad timing, tho; he looked like he could use a beer. Or 5.

Am I the only one bugged by the fact that Morgan still refers to Reid as "Kid"? After all Reid's survived, you'd think Morgan would move on especially since lately Reid has been taking him on (verbally of course) and hasn't backed down. Maybe I'm just being defensive or reading too much into it. :)

I still don't like Rossi, but he didn't do anything to make me hate him this week. They're making him more human and vulnerable and they need to, because if they don't he'll be the MR clone I didn't want.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 02:04 am (UTC)
I suspect Reid will be "kid" to Morgan until they are in the old-age pensioners home together. It's an older/younger brother relationship, and always will be. *g*

Yeah, I'm totally not surprised Haley did that. But it's still tacky.
[info]lady_insanity wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 02:35 am (UTC)
*snuggles show* That episode completely and utterly killed my spirit as I watched it.

In the really, really wonderful way that well-done spirit-killing does.

That doesn't make a lot of sense. But you're a writer. I think you get what I'm talking about, here.

"Spencer? Trigger. Trigger? Spencer. Oh, I see you have already met."

Oh good. So that wasn't just me reading to much into things again. I'm glad. I do this sometimes, you see.

Not that it wasn't blatantly obvious if one's paying attention, but I don't really trust my brain to be sane when it come to these things.

Also, what was the Reid addiction hint comment? I think I missed it, due to large amounts of background noise in my house.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 02:44 am (UTC)
Oh, no. Totally not reading into that. The Gube *nailed* that scene, and it doesn't matter at all that he doesn't have any dialogue. He's gone Someplace Else in his head, and the fact that he's standing dead center, gun offline, in an incompletely cleared crime scene isn't even making a dent on his awareness right now.

It gave me a chill.

I suspect MGG role-plays Reid as much as acting him. That young man is turning into a hella fine character actor.
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[info]wild_patience wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 03:38 am (UTC)
This is the first episode with Rossi that I've seen. We had to move two months ago and had no TV reception in the new place. Getting cable wasn't top of our priority list, so I haven't seen much of this season.

I started watching this show after reading your analyses of the episodes. I'm so happy to be able to see the shows again so I can read your analyses again. Keep on doing it, please!
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 04:35 am (UTC)
Sure will. *g*
[info]calanthe_b wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 04:29 am (UTC)
~wails~ I swear I am going to burst waiting for horrible Channel 7 to air this season...
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 04:31 am (UTC)
Alas!

And even more alas, it looks like we are only getting half a season, because, well, writer's strike ongoing.
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[info]leahbobet wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 04:35 am (UTC)
As always, back of the pack here... *g*

Civil war battlefield, hm? Brother against brother -- you have your two children, in two homes, raised by two mothers determined to keep their father's ghost away from them, and both find out through other means. What makes one go bad?

And I liked how CotW Sr.'s marriage busted up, but years later he's still wearing that wedding ring. Another torch he (and Rossi and Hotch and Gideon) can't put down; another way they just can't heal. Rabidly loyal, but to the point where they hurt themselves.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 05:05 am (UTC)
Oo. I was *wondering* what the civil war was there for, and of course you are right. And SMRT.

Yeah, those fucking wedding rings. All the way back to "The Fox."
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[info]hawkwing_lb wrote:
Dec. 14th, 2007 05:56 pm (UTC)
Trailing in at the back of the pack. This show makes my heart hurt at the same time and in equal amounts as it makes my heart want to burst.

AJ Cook and MGG, such excellent actors even without dialogue.

"If you stop caring you're jaded. If you care too much it'll ruin you."

This episode was a beautiful thing. I miss regular CM, damnit. Especially when they seem to have been on a bit of a roll of excellence, these last three or four eps or so.
[info]nebula99 wrote:
Dec. 15th, 2007 01:29 pm (UTC)
I'm still thinking about this one. I suspect I will have to watch it again. Shame, eh?

I'm not convinced about the plot - I didn't see enough of what made the son a killer.

However, the most wonderful scenes of female solidarity and the interactions between the women more than made up for that.

And yes, Spencer in the barn, taken back to his bad place. MGG is more than just a pretty face who got a lucky break.

The scene with Prentiss and Karen gave me a thought about her backstory - Emily Prentiss had an abortion. Possibly a botched one in the Middle East that her mother arranged and covered up for. And has been trying to make up for ever since. Or maybe not.

Okay, having Hotch served at work? Tacky as shit.


Have to agree with that. Far too cliched. Hotch just agreeing to go for a drink cos he didn't have anyone waiting for him at home was enough.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 15th, 2007 01:37 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm not convinced about the psychology of the son. I'm not completely unconvinced, either, mind you--people have done incredibly horrid things to make their parents proud--but a little more foundation would be good. Of course, that's the tradeoff: they can preserve mystery, or they can give us the detailed psychology of the unsub. It's hard to do both.

So they trade off, and sometimes they do one, and sometimes the other.

Also, I forgive them a lot in their 43 minutes.

I wonder how Jaje would have done with that barn. :-P
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[info]magdalyna wrote:
Dec. 15th, 2007 05:43 pm (UTC)
That was excellent.
[info]carla_scribbles wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2007 12:16 am (UTC)
* I think I want JJ's job even less than anyone else's. And I bet all the others try to pretend they don't know what her desk looks like.

* Okay, I really am going to have to start liking Rossi now. He looks like turning into my kind of fucked-up asshole. Dammit.

* I want Garcia to be better, damn it. It makes me sad in the face when she's sad.

* I love Jennifer Hetrick (Mary). Like, a lot. *goes off and watches the episode of Profit where she shoots the fishtank*

* Ow. Ow. Ow. And thank you, show, for not making anyone talk about what's going on with Reid. We get it. Thank you for knowing we'd get it.

* God, the Southern-ish gothic of it all. And of course it's the little pregnant one who hauls off and shoots him.

* When Hotch goes splode, they're gonna be able to see it from space.

* Emily is not used to non-task-related social interaction; she's less painfully awkward than she was at first, but she still only looks better-socialized than Reid.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 17th, 2007 12:35 am (UTC)
What you said to ALL of that.

Yes.

Somebody needs to give the Gube an Emmy nod one of these years.
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[info]tamnonlinear wrote:
Dec. 19th, 2007 04:39 pm (UTC)
Since I am generally a week behind, I've only just seen this episode last night.

I've been tense through many episodes, cried before, but I think this is the first one where I was yelling at the screen.

When Hotch stayed behind to talk to JJ, I yelled "MOM!"

When they were going close to the culvert, I was pleading that the girls should get to live.

Also, best examples of "he needed killing" as a defense strategy. You do wonder how people clean up from this, since silence didn't work the first time.
[info]matociquala wrote:
Dec. 19th, 2007 06:48 pm (UTC)
Yeah.

I bet this time they scatter to the four winds.
[info]dhae_knight wrote:
Dec. 18th, 2011 07:59 pm (UTC)
I've been reading your meta, and it's only made CM that much deeper (because usually, I'm kind of a shallow person, and it takes much work for me to figure out what's going on under the surface, and it's always good to have a starting-point for my thinky thoughts).

With this eppy my thinky thoughts went something like this:

So this episode is about moms getting rid of dads, so their sons won't grow up to become them, yes? So what does that say, exactly, about the timing of Hotch being served? Haley getting rid of Hotch so Jack won't grow up to become him? Or is that just me missing the point entirely?
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