Okay. You like Jonathan Coulton? You like Guitar Hero?
Watch this:
...Yup.
(Yeah, I'm months behind the curve on this one. Sue me.)
For a discussion of what this is, and what its implications are, I offer you a blog entry on Corrugated Media. (So far, pretty much the only blog entry on Corrugated Media, but there you go.)
From that blog:
Okay, and that's the thing right now. The internet is not just going to change the nature of entertainment. It's already changed it. Broadcast media will probably never go away--god knows some nights I don't want the emotional commitment of anything more interactive than a cooking show. But the internets are interactive and remixive and discursive, and moreover, you can walk right up to me and talk to me on them. (And there are any number of other entertainers who have similar web presences, with greater or lesser degrees of transparency. If I really needed to, for any reason, I know where to find musicians, television producers, actors, writers, game designers, programmers, essayists, artists, graphic designers, architects--and talk to them in person.
The reason that works, of course, is because the celebrities (loosely so termed) that one knows on the internet are suddenly real people. They're not constructs anymore. Jonathan Coulton isn't a construct to me, the way Bono (to use the example quoted above) is. Jonathan Coulton is some guy on the internets, whose work I really like. Tom Smith (
filkertom) used to be a construct to me: I only knew his work through recordings, and I was a big fan. And yanno, then I met him online and at Penguicon, and now he's just some super-talented guy I know, who is also funny. Wil Wheaton is the classic example of this: I keep forgetting he's also a talented actor, because I think of him as one of the best bloggers on my daily information rounds.
And you know what? I like that. I don't want to be a construct. I want to be some guy you know on the internets who tells stories. Who possibly you pay to tell you stories, much the same way I have friends I pay for web hosting or web design or massages. Because it's their professional skill.
One of the weird things about being an entertainer is that people who you don't know know you. And one of the cool things about the internet is that it's bringing back the village. We used to know our baker, our barber, our blacksmith. Now, we can know our writers, our musicians, our crazy-ass remix artists.
But fame, the kind of fame that separates famous people from the hoi polloi, as it were, is a funny thing. Not only does it turn the famous person into a construct, it turns them into a slate that the fan can project all sorts of things into. How often have you gotten disappointed at a celebrity because her political views weren't what you thought they should be? I know I have. And damn, you know. Why do I think I get to do that? I don't pay Claudia Black to have her politics match mine. I pay her to kick ass in tight pants. Let's be honest here.
But that's the thing: that's this weird psychological trick of displacement and transference, where you take somebody you don't know and you attach all this emotion to them. And it's harder to do that with somebody who's just this guy you know on the internets than somebody who is a princess in a tower.
Does it have a potential to be scary? Sure. Absolutely. But on another level, I think we may be looking at the end of reputation by fame, and the birth of a different kind of reputation. Because while there are people who want that mystique, that megastar distance, that princess in a tower thing... there's also a lot of people who want to be able to drop Jonathan Coulton an email and say, "Hey, can I remix "Code Monkey?"
And eventually, we may be looking at a system where the President is some guy I know, who I pay to run the country.
Watch this:
...Yup.
(Yeah, I'm months behind the curve on this one. Sue me.)
For a discussion of what this is, and what its implications are, I offer you a blog entry on Corrugated Media. (So far, pretty much the only blog entry on Corrugated Media, but there you go.)
From that blog:
I managed to track down the creator of this custom track, Andy Sage,who gets lots of points from me not only for his selection in music,but for how he went about this process. He secured permission fromCoulton before posting the track, despite the source materials beingfreely available in a remix contest, and all of Coulton’s music beingunder a license he was not breaking. Sage was under no legal obligationto contact Coulton and make sure he was cool with this, but he did soanyway, and that is the kind of attitude that makes this sort oflicense and culture really work. Tying this back to why I think thisstory is so cool is the fact that he was ABLE to contact Jonathan to doso. Try doing that with Bono.
Okay, and that's the thing right now. The internet is not just going to change the nature of entertainment. It's already changed it. Broadcast media will probably never go away--god knows some nights I don't want the emotional commitment of anything more interactive than a cooking show. But the internets are interactive and remixive and discursive, and moreover, you can walk right up to me and talk to me on them. (And there are any number of other entertainers who have similar web presences, with greater or lesser degrees of transparency. If I really needed to, for any reason, I know where to find musicians, television producers, actors, writers, game designers, programmers, essayists, artists, graphic designers, architects--and talk to them in person.
The reason that works, of course, is because the celebrities (loosely so termed) that one knows on the internet are suddenly real people. They're not constructs anymore. Jonathan Coulton isn't a construct to me, the way Bono (to use the example quoted above) is. Jonathan Coulton is some guy on the internets, whose work I really like. Tom Smith (
And you know what? I like that. I don't want to be a construct. I want to be some guy you know on the internets who tells stories. Who possibly you pay to tell you stories, much the same way I have friends I pay for web hosting or web design or massages. Because it's their professional skill.
One of the weird things about being an entertainer is that people who you don't know know you. And one of the cool things about the internet is that it's bringing back the village. We used to know our baker, our barber, our blacksmith. Now, we can know our writers, our musicians, our crazy-ass remix artists.
But fame, the kind of fame that separates famous people from the hoi polloi, as it were, is a funny thing. Not only does it turn the famous person into a construct, it turns them into a slate that the fan can project all sorts of things into. How often have you gotten disappointed at a celebrity because her political views weren't what you thought they should be? I know I have. And damn, you know. Why do I think I get to do that? I don't pay Claudia Black to have her politics match mine. I pay her to kick ass in tight pants. Let's be honest here.
But that's the thing: that's this weird psychological trick of displacement and transference, where you take somebody you don't know and you attach all this emotion to them. And it's harder to do that with somebody who's just this guy you know on the internets than somebody who is a princess in a tower.
Does it have a potential to be scary? Sure. Absolutely. But on another level, I think we may be looking at the end of reputation by fame, and the birth of a different kind of reputation. Because while there are people who want that mystique, that megastar distance, that princess in a tower thing... there's also a lot of people who want to be able to drop Jonathan Coulton an email and say, "Hey, can I remix "Code Monkey?"
And eventually, we may be looking at a system where the President is some guy I know, who I pay to run the country.
- Mood:
pleased & intrigued - Music:Jonathan Coulton - Code Monkey

Comments
Gatekeepers end up preserving that precious time, and the more in demand someone is, the more likely they will withdraw behind rings of invisible gatekeepers pretty much the same way the old everyone-in-one-space castles gave way to the long corridors and upwards levels before you got access to the privy chambers.
However, I can't help but think that in five, ten years, the guy who doesn't have those gatekeepers--or who comes out from behind them occasionally--is going to have a demogogic (sp?) advantage over the guy who doesn't.
That may be my town-meeting Yankee self talking. But people will vote for people whose hands they have shook.
And yanno, Al Gore sends me these emails? And I know he wants something from me.
But I still think he's a pretty okay guy.
But I have had people I know only over the internet invite me to their house. I've written stories with them. If a correspondent isn't a real friend, I don't know what is.
Once upon a time, I thought all writers were dead. Glad that turned out not to be so.
My brain goes: "Oh look, here's a book by that chick I know from the internet. Let's check out what her writing is like."
I like reading like that.
Yes, but can I hit you up for spare change?
The looks have been getting less strange as the years roll by.
*points to icon*
I have nothing profound to say about this, because the Muppets have already said it for me. (As is so often the case, really.)
(Kermit drinking milk.)
"Think about this for a minute."
When I "meet" someone on the internets it know them as much as I know anyone I see face to face and lots of times I like them as much or more because the conversation we have is less noisy.
coulton and wheaton and you and sarah are more than just famous people because I can talk to you (but tom smith is still more than just some guy with talent...he's a freakin' genius and i am still a groupie.)
Best lyrics anywhere.
You're absolutely right about how the Internet is changing the relationship between entertainers and their fans. The Independent music industry couldn't exist without the Net, for one thing. And it makes all sorts of things possible that just wouldn't happen otherwise. (Real-world example: I got to go to Japan last month b/c an ex-pat promoter in Osaka contacted my Artiste via MySpace and invited her to come over and do a tour.)
Of course, the flip side of this is when someone corresponds with their favorite musician/writer/artist/etc. online, and a line gets crossed and a sort of stalking situation crops up. When you're a touring musician, this can present an issue when your tour schedule includes the town your virtual stalker lives in ... (we're dealing with this right now, and I'm not exactly sure how that's gonna pan out).
Yeah.
Of course, even if you do the tower princess thing, you can wind up with stalkers.
Possibly more so, because the projection is easier.
I mean, I understand the gist, but damn that's an unanchored analogy now that I think about it. Once you decontextualize it, it's like... *does the Tom Cruise pfoooof thing (then laughs)*
*boggles*
I'm using it as a tag for discussions of how memes intersect and develop through the media of the internet.
Which is the sort of thing that seems perfectly obvious to me, and makes no sense to anybody else.
(Also, you being not only a good writer, but "that author whose livejournal I read" went far to propelling to the "buy her books as soon as they come out" list.)
Not that the ability to get away from communities at times is a bad thing in itself.
But what you say about who becomes our community members--the grocer replaced by the working artist of our choice--is really interesting. It's what I used to dream about and why I love this. But where will the people lacking communication skills or not having any particular gifts of intelligence or creativity get a mended community though?
*ducks*
I dunno. Many of the mailing lists I am on have plenty of people who can't seem to find their shift key, and they get along all right.
On the internet, there really is someone for everyone.
I don't think, if I'm honest, I would have come across you as a writer, had it not been for CM and your LJ. But I'm very glad I did - reading the books written by someone I know on the internets and getting some insight into the process of their creation has made the reading experience quite a different one. I'll stop rambling now - but I'll just add that I've nearly finished Dust and have enjoyed it very much.
And yes. The internet saved my sanity as well, when I was trapped in Las Vegas. Or Hell, as I like to fondly call it.
What did you wind up with?
Louisa May Alcott once remarked of her fans that she had asked for bread and they gave her a stone in the shape of a pedestal.
Yes.
At least these days we can put up a tip bucket.
The other experience was odder, because instead of me reaching out and touching someone moderately famous, it was the other way around. I was involved in a discussion of Joel Rosenberg's "Guardians of the Flame" novels on a newsgroup, and Rosenberg himself dropped in and added a couple of thoughtful comments.
My experience from the other day: in a discussion on the LordPeter Yahoo!Group, someone recommended Farthing as a source of insight into Gaudy Night. And I was able to say, "Hey! I was talking about some similarities between those two books just this morning ... to Jo Walton." I love that. I love being able to hear about books that I might love as they're in progress, and getting excited about something that might be a tiny allusion to something totally obscure and getting to actually go ask, and being privy to all the writing-geekery stuff. Books, it turns out, are definitely not like sausages.
Well, *I* liked them better before I knew how they were made. But that may be because I work in the factory....
Yeah, there's no famous important person here. Just a woman writing a blog entry and watching Iron Chef.
Thanks for reminding me I have to go get more Coulton. ;P