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What my job is not.

david bowie black tie - sosostris2012
I've been thinking lately about my job as an artist, and what it is and isn't.

This is going to get a little theoretical, and sound a little arrogant, but bear with me: I'm not asserting that I'm perfectly competent at this job, or that it's an easy one. I'm just saying what I think my job is.

My job as an artist is to make you squirm.

My job as an artist is not to console you or distract you from the things in the world that make you unhappy. That's my job as an entertainer, and often it's in direct conflict with my job as an artist--but conflict is what makes narratives interesting, so that's okay. My job as an artist is not to give you characters and stories you care about and invest in and want to spend time with. That's my job as a storyteller, which supports and informs my job as an artist.

My job as an artist is not to propagandize for anyone or anything, because that would mean I have the answers, and my job as an artist is to point out that there are no total answers and no moral certainties and that the ones we think we have mostly are broken and flawed and kind of suck. My job as an artist is not to rubber-stamp anybody's belief system, including my own.

My job as an artist is to keep hanging out the reminders that it's always more complicated, that the human condition is fraught with contradictions and compromises and crippling choices, that we make mistakes--sometimes terrible mistakes--and that's okay, but also that we are capable of so much more than we aspire to.

My job as an artist is also to stand on the corner with a sign and say "Have you looked at this? This is pretty fucked up, right here." My job as an artist is to point out that ideologies are flawed, that absolutes are nonsense, that cultural expectations are relative, and that we are also deceived by the lies we sell our children.

But I also know that my job as an artist is to point out that we human creatures have as enormous a capacity for kindness and compassion as we do for creating misery, because that thing--it's always more complicated--isn't one-sided.

If you want somebody to tell you what you want to hear, to hew to a party line, or to spread some kind of gospel, you probably want some other kind of artist. If you want somebody to proselytize an ideology, you definitely want some other kind of artist.

I am not here to comfort you.

My job as an artist is to tell you what I see, not what I wish I saw. My job is to tell as much of the truth about the world as my tiny flawed inadequate little brain and art can encompass. And the truth--even the tiny, fragmentary, self-contradictory truths that are all I have to offer--the truth will make you squirm.

It makes me squirm too, and flinch, and want to go bury myself in puppies. The truth is like that.

I know this job is hard. Better women than me have complained of how hard it is. I'm not even saying I'm particularly good at it, but that's okay, because the job is too hard to do well.

But I know what the job is. And what it is not.


To be an artist means never to avert one's eyes.
                                --Akira Kurosawa

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[info]ex_benpayne119 wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:23 pm (UTC)
Ooh, very nicely put!
[info]ex_benpayne119 wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:34 pm (UTC)
That Kurusowa quote is a great one, too. That kind of brutal honesty, not just toward one's audience, but toward one's self, is important, I think, in a really powerful artist. Not that they always get it right, but that they are always willing to look with open eyes and unromanticised scrutiny at the world and at their own beliefs.

I've been watching Scorsese's Dylan documentary No Direction Home this evening, and I think that's the vision that comes across from that film of Dylan; he's not perfect, but there's a kind of quixotic honesty in his examination of himself and the world.
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[info]matociquala wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:37 pm (UTC)
And yet, I think the exact opposite.

I think as an artist, and a human being, the moral cowardice--what Ursula LeGuin calls the treason of the artist--is to soft-sell, or to simplify. It's so much easier to do that, so much safer. So much more consumable. So much less likely to make enemies.

And maybe if I believed in simple straightforward answers to knotty problems I would be more willing to pervert my art to do that. But I don't.

Or possibly we're talking about two different things? Because I'm not talking about what the poster calls skeeviness. I'm talking about a willingness to acknowledge moral complexity and a lack of simple answers, which is something I've been talking about here for, oh, seven years now, give or take.

How much of my work have you read?
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[info]tithenai wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:27 pm (UTC)
Yes. Yes, yes, yes. This rocks, thank you.
[info]bunny_m wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:36 pm (UTC)
*applauds softly*

This.

Also, awesome quote that I hadn't heard before. Thank you. (Again)
[info]inaurolillium wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:38 pm (UTC)
This comment is largely tangential to your actual post. I think.

When I was at FSU< I took a class on Esthetics, or Philosophy of Art and Beauty (according to the prof; not my definition). We spent a lot of time debates definitions of art. I did not, in that class, find one that satisfied me.

At various times in the years since then, I've struggled with definitions of art. You might have noticed that I do a number of different crafts. A short list of these includes silk painting, sculpting, jewelry making, weaving, dyeing, and cooking. I would sometimes encounter people who would say scornfully that nothing functional could be art (including in that class). I slowly came around to the position that I would rather make beautiful things that were also useful. I came to insist that I was not an artist, that what I did was not art. I became very comfortable and happy with that (although some of my friends tried to insist that my work was art; the same people now want to refer to me as a chef, over my objections). I note that the work I do is also not art under your definition -- something that makes me more pleased with it rather than less.

Eventually, I did find a definition of art that made me happy. It is one that I use solely to decide whether or not my own work is art, not to judge the work of others. By the definition I prefer, very very little of my own work is art. The pieces that are, I never sell, I only give away. I can afford to do that, since I am not an artist. I like not being an artist partly for that reason.

My definition is one I found in KJ Baker's The Etched City: Art is the conscious creation of numinous phenomena.

I'm glad you've found a definition for your art that works for you. I think you execute your art very well.
[info]matociquala wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:43 pm (UTC)
I do not and am not attempting to define art. I've got no interest in defining and categorizing, honestly, although I realize the practice is useful to some people.

I'm talking about my job, or my calling. Which is not the same thing as anybody else's job.
[info]rolanni wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:50 pm (UTC)
Boy, am I glad I never aspired to Art.

Sighs, and tries to be less grumpy.

Yanno, the job is hard enough without making it even more complicated by bringing Art into it. Art yearns for Validation, Art wants to be Studied, and Art is easy to Pose. Mind you, I may simply know a regretful subset of Artist, but that's my impression, and it's obviously not a good one.

What I want to do is tell a good story. One that sticks with people and makes them think, if they're of a mind to think. But if they're of a mind to be entertained, then they got their money's worth, I did my job and both of us are happy.

There's nothing particularly wrong with 'happy'.

Nope, that's not awfully less grumpy, is it?

...going to go write now.
[info]matociquala wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:52 pm (UTC)
I'm not trying to tell you your job. I'm talking about me.
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[info]jane_dark wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 12:54 pm (UTC)
I get what you're aiming for. Although "mak[ing people] squirm" is an awfully broad goal, encompassing a lot of different types of squirm.

But I think you accomplish this goal, in a fair number of ways.

The difficulty, in terms of race, is that too often, I'm perfectly able to read right through a novel being oblivious to various aspects of it (as I suspect I would have done with Patricia Wrede, as I did with Blood and Iron). The people who most need to be made to squirm are the people who are best at being oblivious. The people who are squirming are often the people who were most hurt by the reality that an author was working with (at whatever distance, whether actively trying to confront/adapt something, or just because its the background that an author has been brought up in).

I squirm more (and confront flawed ideologies, etc.) when I read sci fi (not just yours), not because the author set out to make *me* squirm, but because I've seen the fierce sadness and anger of the responses of people of color. But it shouldn't work that way. It isn't their responsibility to make me squirm by speaking out. If it's the artist's, then the artist isn't quite succeeding.
[info]matociquala wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 01:17 pm (UTC)
That wasn't actually on my mind when I wrote this, but I can see how it imports--a wider discussion of race in SFF is overdue, and it's ambient right now. And I think as a community we're handling it with our usual reasoned discourse over any knotty issue, which is to say not particularly well.

Here's the thing: no matter *how* an author handles issues of race in her work (or issues of homosexuality, or Christianity, or whatever) she's going to piss people off. Because strangely enough, people don't necessarily agree with each other on contentious issues.

Is the solution to avoid it, because conflict is unpleasant? No. I can't speak for anyone else, but my current solution is to write as well and as honestly as I can, and then leave the discussion to the critics. All of whom will bring their own interpretations and baggage to the discussion. Some will be oblivious to subtext, some will interpret things in direct contravention of the author's intentions, some will "get it," and some will pick out subtexts the author doesn't even know are there.

This is a good thing, and the discussion is a good thing.

I can't speak for the experience of people of color. In fact, I can't speak for anybody's experience but my own. If you look uptread, you'll see another white female science fiction writer who's pretty upset with me for my definition of what *my* job is.

I cannot control the reader. I cannot control what he brings to the text. All I can do is try to hold up mirrors, and understand that what the reader sees in them is influenced by the angle from which he looks.

(As an example, in the past month, I've received communications castigating me for the way in which I handle queer issues in my work. One reader wished to inform me that he would never read my work again, because I was propagandizing the gay agenda. Another wished to inform me that he would never read my work again, because I treated queer characters so exploitatively. I thanked them both. At a certain point, you just breathe out and let the other guy have his say. It's certainly counterbalanced by the number of letters I get thanking me for the way I present queer folks.)
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[info]hominysnark wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 01:20 pm (UTC)
I have always believed that art, true art, must provoke an emotional response. It can run the gamut from bliss to squirminess, but if the reaction is nothing more than glazed eyes, then the artist has failed.

For what it's worth, you never give me the glaze-eye.
[info]nathreee wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 06:24 pm (UTC)
Exactly this. I never really envisioned to make people squirm with what I write, but I always hoped to make them feel something. Emotion is so much closer to the truth than any words can ever be.
[info]neutronjockey wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 01:28 pm (UTC)
I think you haz it.
I think the tricky part (since you obviously have attached a moral and ethical aesthetic to your personal definition of art) is being true to yourself as an artist... while not completely giving into entertainment; or, bringing your point across as an artist with out being utterly didactic.

Of course, I have no qualms with anyone who is a commercialist whore either...I mean, you gots to eat.

As far as the old as art itself question of whether or not art itself has value as moral or ethical tools for communication (or whether as artists we must insure that our art has moral and ethical questions), my personal stance on this is that it should be left for the artist to decide.

As we know Bob, the reader/view is going to grok what he/she wants to see whether the art was intentionally provocative or simply commercially driven.
[info]matociquala wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 01:32 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm a Yankee. We write comedies of ethics, as it has been pointed out to me.

Yes. The reader is going to import his own context. And I can't control that. All I can do is be aware of the range of contexts that will be imported--and even then, I'm sure to miss a few. The range of human variation, etc.

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[info]harriet_spy wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 01:32 pm (UTC)
This sounds lovely until you ask yourself what sort of discomfort you are producing. In the current context, you seem to be referring to the discomfort that has arisen through your handling (and of course that of many others) of certain racial issues. (Note: if it's not, I think you would be well-advised to go back and make that clear.)

That is not the discomfort of being challenged to rethink old conventionalities, to see the world and one's fellow-beings in a wider way, to open one's compassion to people you have thought beyond its reach. That is just the same old pain a very old and evil system has dealt out to maintain itself and crush others throughout human history (and cloaked under many guises, including "the inevitability of pissing someone off," I might add). It is not a discomfort I place any value on. If you think it's your job as an artist to produce that kind of discomfort, I don't think much of your job.
[info]matociquala wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 01:41 pm (UTC)
I was actually driving at what you say in your second paragraph, that my job as an artist is to question assumptions. I did think that was explicit in what I wrote, though it seems not to have been.

I was not speaking specifically about race and diversity in SFF or the current discussion pertaining to it. I made a commitment to shut up and listen on that topic, and I have attempted to honor it.
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[info]rhfay wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 02:22 pm (UTC)
Nice! I especially like "my job as an artist is to make you squirm".
[info]sinboy wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 02:32 pm (UTC)
It's a fine tradition in art, making something fascinating, yet uncomfortable to look at. I expect it's why George Martin does so well with his Song Of Ice And Fire books, or Daniel Abrahams with the Long Price Quartet.

It's also why I love Magritte so much. I think Dali overdid the symbolism and had too much going on in many of his paintings. Magritte's surrealism was less primal and less heavy handed, but somehow more profoundly moving to me because of it's simplicity.
[info]matociquala wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 02:50 pm (UTC)
Oh, Magritte. Yeah. It's unsettling, but.
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[info]sartorias wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 03:05 pm (UTC)
This is such a good thinky post. Thank you.
[info]stwish wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 03:11 pm (UTC)
If the duty of an artist is to make people squirm then Sasha Baron Cohen is Leonardo Devinci.

I have simpler rules;

A) Art is anything you can get away with.

B) Fuck'm they can't take a joke.

And not to brag, but i suspect i break as many rules in Lutherie, Hotrodding, Sculpture, History and Fiction as anybody that comes to mind quickly.

After all, i am the king of the unpublishable due to non-PC-ness novel, no?

You just go on wit' yo own bad self.
[info]auriaephiala wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 08:25 pm (UTC)
If the duty of an artist is to make people squirm then Sasha Baron Cohen is Leonardo Devinci.

However, Cohen gets his effects through misrepresentation and using people: for example, the villagers in Glod, Romania, have actually tried to take legal action against him for his depiction of them in Borat.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1078446/We-hate-Borat-The-poor-Romanian-villagers-humiliated-Sacha-Baron-Cohens-spoof-documentary.html


I think honesty is ALSO a basic duty of an artist.
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[info]garnetlocks wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 03:48 pm (UTC)
YES!

I'm printing this out and posting it at work - a junior college, Art Department.
[info]clarentine wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 03:49 pm (UTC)
Funny, I've been having this sort of discussion with myself of late. *g* I'm afraid you're on a road I cannot follow. I can't breathe that air. Nevertheless, I am happy for you in having seen the road, and having the strength to climb it.
[info]damihjva wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 04:10 pm (UTC)
This is precisely why I read your work. Thank you for being a strong, brave voice instead of a simple sound-byte.
[info]finnyb wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 04:11 pm (UTC)
*total agreement, for you and for myself*
[info]cjtremlett wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 04:16 pm (UTC)
I TA for an Asian lit course and we do a Kurosawa chunk. Next semester, I think I'm going to bring that quote in for the discussion sessions. Hopefully it will provoke this kind of discussion. Which is part of why I love teaching that class!

Given some of the responses, I'd say you need to put a huge, blinking, obnoxious disclaimer at the top that this is about you and does not necessarily apply to anyone else or their writing or art or whatnot. But there would always be some people who would ignore that anyway. I've tried that idea a time or two and it never works.
[info]elissa_carey wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 05:17 pm (UTC)
Seconded on that second paragraph (although I thought it was pretty explicit).
[info]ph_unbalanced wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 05:56 pm (UTC)
Yes, exactly.

And just as true is the other point that you alluded to -- that you have multiple jobs simultaneously. The trick is balancing all of them, to the extent that one even can.

I am finding in my own work that my job seems to be to tell the truths that no one else will tell. Some are squirm-worthy and some are not, but they are all things that no one else seems to be able to say. It's not a fun job but, as they say, somebody has to do it.
[info]ysabetwordsmith wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 07:17 pm (UTC)
I think ...
... that part of an artist means writing, or discovering, the job description as it applies to you. I'm glad that you have done this. There are many different purposes for art, and thus many job descriptions available.
[info]quennessa wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 07:37 pm (UTC)
Right the hell on.

Thank you for it.
[info]inkgrrl wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 09:00 pm (UTC)
Word.
[info]chang3002 wrote:
May. 23rd, 2009 09:26 pm (UTC)
Well put.

To quote Seneca, "SHIT YEAH!!""
[info]katallen wrote:
May. 24th, 2009 03:20 am (UTC)
I think this is all true.

But there is a small voice in my head that says art is also about challenging the senses. I guess that sets me adrift somewhere in the place people have dragged truth equaling beauty and beauty truth from, to propose that the artist's job is to challenge our preconceptions and assumptions of truth (taking that as a shorthand for what you're saying above), and also our preconceptions and assumptions of beauty (for which I don't have a handy definition).

Damn all intelligent posts and little voices -- I don't feel properly equipped for these thoughts :D
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