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March 2017



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this lovely lady got the thickness. can I get a hell yeah?

Watching the media get science wrong again...

What this suggests to me, with a little simple math, is that the exercisers who did 60 minutes or more of moderate exercise (if they're burning 600 calories an hour, they ain't doing hard circuits or rock climbing) gained an average of 2.3 pounds of muscle, while the ones doing 30 minutes of moderate exercise gained an average of 1.1 pounds of muscle.

Which is... double the result.

I'd also be interested in hearing what their relative blood pressures and cholesterol counts were.

The health benefits of exercise are not chiefly about fat loss, no matter what fatophobic media would like us to think.

On a related note, I managed to chafe my cleavage with my run yesterday. I'm a big fan of Title Nine's Frog Bra (sadly, not currently available due to a spandex shortage, or something) but apparently 8.4 miles of rubbing against the edge of a heavy-duty compression bra was too much for my tender flesh.

There are special challenges in this world for large-breasted women. (I'm a 36F, and if I keep shrinking, likely to be a 34F or 34G by this time next year.) Coincidentally, there's an article on just this topic at Clutch today. I concur with the woman in comments who has nothing good to say about Victoria's Secret. I, too, have had the experience of having them shovel me into a bra with cups too small and a band too large. For those of you who are small-bosomed or have visible pectoral muscles rather than sacs of fat and mammary tissue up front, the band is the part that provides 90% of the support in a properly fitted bra.

Which just proves to me that Vickie's doesn't know shit about lingerie.

My go-to site for non-sports-bras has been, for years, Bravissimo. They have pretty bras that fit, which means not giving me quadriboob or major back pain or Morghul Bra Syndrome, where the underwire attempts to eat through to your heart and turn you into a brawraith.

Worth paying the shipping from the UK. Honestly. (Fig Leaves, the U.S. equivalent, does not seem to handle the upper end of the size ranges nearly as well.)

And they've been introducing sports bras.

Hmm. Well, it's royalty season. Maybe when my next check arrives, I'll look into replacing my beloved but apparently somewhat rough-seamed Frog Bras. (Seriously, I've had these things since 2001. I just retired one last year that dated from 1998 or so. They're that durable.)

Ave et vale, Frog Bra.


I wear a 32F. Boa constrictor ribs if you like, but I can tell you for sure what doesn't fit--and I really don't have typical rib cage/chest size for a small woman.
Check out my comment above. I promise you don't measure for a 32F, and probably no one human does.
I wanted to update my comment. It would be hard to size someone for a 32F based on the bra sizing method I learned in the 80's, but that doesn't seem to be much in use anymore. There are at least 3 alternate methods, all of which seem to yield too-large a size. I do still think that needing to purchase sizes like 32F is somehow an artifact of vanity sizing--things having been manipulated so that the "average" 36C bra has cups that the average woman could wear on her head. It doesn't really matter how sizes are figured, as long as it's consistent, which it's not. *sigh*

The nice thing here is that this discussion prompted me to re-evaluate the size I was wearing. I had been wearing 36B for a long time, but I checked out some different sizes and a 34D turned out to be a much better and much more flattering fit. Yay!

Sorry to fill up your journal with so much bra neepery, Bear!
If you don't believe Marissa wears a 32F, you've obviously never seen her in a tight dress. Some women just have rather large boobs. And an F cup on a broad-shouldered woman is not as dramatic as you might think, based on the breasts of size zero Hollywood types.

I wore a 36B in college (I think I was probably a 34C, but I was still listening to Vickie's nonsense then) and my breasts have, indeed, grown since then--partly because some women's breasts do, and partly due to weight gain.

I've been using the same sizing method since high school, and I have bras I wore when I was wearing a 36C and also a 38DD. They really do not fit any more. I should probably throw them out, but the ones I've kept have sentimental value. ;-)

Some people really are F cups, and it's not THAT uncommon. (I have a friend who wears an H, and another friend I don't dare speculate about.)

I think possibly somebody gave you some bad information a long time ago!
I'm sorry if I was unclear. I am not doubting the existence of an F cup. (I mean, really, that's kind of dumb. Do I live on the planet of flat-chested women or something? :-) What I am saying is that based on the old school bra sizing method I learned way back when, it would be very hard to get a size like 32F, because the number on the band was supposed to be your actual bust size at the widest part. 32 inches is a very small bust measurement for any adult woman, so that woman would have to be very tiny to have an F cup and still measure 32 inches around the bust. That would be about a 26 inch rib cage--not something you see on an adult woman. I grew up sewing a lot--sewing with my grandmother, sewing my own clothes, sewing barbie clothes, etc., and any time a size is given for anything on "top," it's the bust measurement at the widest part. Always the bust. Nothing is sized based on the measurement of your ribs.

Now what people are talking about here is a different way of calculating bra size, using the number as the measurement around the rib cage. Yet another method, according to the internet, is taking the rib cage measurement and arbitrarily adding 3 or 4 inches. And, finally, there's the Victoria's Secret method, where you use a chest measurement above the bust, under the armpit, as your band size. I went around the internet plugging in my actual measurements to see what my "bra size" would be, and I got sizes as disparate as 34C, 38B, and 40C. My conclusion is that bra size actually doesn't translate to a measurement you can get with a tape at all.

I do think vanity sizing comes into play here because even though dress sizes have changed, and today's size 8 or 10 is significantly bigger than it was twenty years ago, the average bra size is still supposedly an unchanging 36C. Using one's own breasts to track the drift of bra sizes, though, has obvious drawbacks. I myself have had a baby in the interim, so nothing is the same.
I'm saying I think somebody gave you bad information about how to size a bra back in the day, since I learned the same method I use now when I started wearing them, and have used it consistently since--with refinements, because I figured out that Vickie's was lying when they said I could wear a 36B instead of a 34C.

Also, I should point out that the average American bra size has actually gone up rather a lot in the past twenty years, let alone thirty--from 34B to 36C, if I remember correctly, but I am too lazy to look it up. There's a good deal of controversy as to why this is--the average American butt has also gained in size!--but since girls are reaching puberty earlier, it may be caused by the same environmental factors that is--and people are divided as to whether that's higher average body mass index, estrogen mimics in the environment, or a greater prevalence of things like hormones in milk. (Or environmental antibiotics--which are, after all, given to cattle to fatten them up faster.)

Oh, sure, it's possible I had it wrong back then. However, even using the measurement=band method, I get the wrong size. That would give a 36C for me, and I've not found a 36C in any brand or style that fits. (Too big.)
Huh. I usually stick to UK brands. I wonder if that makes a difference.
One datum in all of this is that sizes do change. I hung on to some of my old pre-pregnancy 36C bras for the longest time, hoping things would change (or that I would shrink). Nope. Even now, in menopause, I'm now a 32DD. A bigger band and smaller cup really doesn't work, and now things are even more not fitting. The last time I tried a 32D, the band was right but the cup was too tight. But a DD cup is too big...it's very subtle but definitely slightly big. And 34 D is just ridiculous.