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April 2016



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Well, Star Trek: Into Darkness was a hot mess.

Only a very few spoilers, but: Physics does not work that way, story does not work that way, and fan service really doesn't work that way. Tribbles could have so easily been used effectively, as an actual plot element, and real fan service, instead of as an essentially pointless deus ex machina. (Why was Klingon Detroit not full of tribbles?)

So many missed opportunities, unearned moments that could have been emotional or telling, and Too Stupid To Live. And I'm sorry, but the entire subversive point of The Uberman Exists And He's A Brown Dude is kind of lost when you cast Benedict Cumberbatch, lovely though his voice is.

He can act. I wish they hadn't directed him into Shatnerhood.

I wish they'd just actually used the whole plot of Diane Carey's Dreadnought!, rather than selected aspects of it grafted onto such stupidness that don't make sense.

Oh, and space is bigger than Michigan, and Qo'noS is only 90 seconds away from Earth at Warp 10. Also, if you're having an enormous battle inside the orbit of the Moon, you can count on Starfleet to not even fucking notice, and nevermind what God needs with a starship, who the hell designs one without decompression doors?

On the other hand, the regular cast is fucking amazing. I could watch Karl Urban, Zoe Saldana, John Cho, Simon Pegg, Anton Yeltsin, and Zachary Quinto play their elder counterparts all day. (John Cho. Karl Urban. ***Sigh.***) Chris Pine is a fine actor, and I adored him in Unstoppable, but the characterization of Kirk is so uneven that he's got nothing to work with.

I just want a movie that doesn't make me want to punch the scenarist in a soft and vascular place. Is that too much to ask?



Yes, all of that. I've said elsewhere that my disbelief required not merely suspension, but cantilevering.

I want to point out, however, what I found the most interesting (and least stabby-making) aspect of the movie to consider: the astonishing emotionality of the men in this movie. I think Sulu may be the only named character not to have had tears in his eyes at some point. It seemed like whenever they weren't shooting/hitting each other they were sitting around sharing their feelings. I have no problem with this, I just think it's fascinating. And I invite you to contemplate Shatner playing the turbolift scene with Uhura.
"my disbelief required not merely suspension, but cantilevering." I love it! I would love to steal it and use it! May I?

I loved it even though it was a seriously flawed movie, for some of the reasons you point out with the comment about emotionality. The Kirk & Uhura in the turbolift scene, and the Kirk, Spock and Uhura in the shuttle bit were terrific - they made perfect sense for the characters. Quinto and Urban are outstanding in the middle of a whole lot of other wonderful actors. And a certain cameo made me happy enough to make up for a whole lot of flaws.

But I really wish they had used one of any number of possible hand-wavy solutions to explain why a character who should be brown was pasty white. Yeah, Cumberbatch being deep in the uncanny valley makes a certain amount of sense, but they still should have made some sort of token explanation.
I love it! I would love to steal it and use it! May I?

Yes, of course--glad it resonated.

The thing is, there was a very simple solution: Cumberbatch didn't need to be Khan. Making him Khan was lazy and, in the way they did it, stupid.

It is my hope that with J.J. Abrams off doing Star Wars--which he's always said is nearer to his heart--someone who loves Trek and is able to create compelling stories within that world (paging Ron Moore!) will be given the helm. That would be true fan service.
I'm not sure how I feel about the various Starfleet officers emoting quite so much, but it does serve to make Uhura's lapse of discipline in the shuttle less irritating.

Everybody on this boat is not real good at professional demeanor, not just the women.
The lack of professionalism on-duty is something that grated on me as well. I'm glad I'm not the only one.