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There Will Always Be Assholes.

Don Imus is an asshole.*

And I support his right to be an asshole.

I also exercise my right not to listen to the bigoted turdbrain, so everybody's happy.

The whole point of freedom of speech, if you ask me, is because it makes it easier to spot the assholes on the horizon.


*But I've got to wonder: he's been an asshole for years. Why are we only just noticing now?

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I wish I could remember who said it, but: "No free speech gets you Hitler. Free speech gets you David Duke."
The line by which we judge such radio jocks is obviously arbitrary. I remember the Greaseman (whom I used to like from time to time) got sacked when he made the comment "No wonder their kind get dragged behind trucks..." I consider Greaseman to be less of a radio-asshole, but that comment still got him bagged, while Imus has been making waves with harsh zingers for I-don't-know-how-long.
Well, to be fair, implying that someone deserves murder is a step beyond calling someone a "ho".
"*But I've got to wonder: he's been an asshole for years. Why are we only just noticing now?"

After the Ann Coulter "faggot" incident, it was noted that she had made gay slurs against people before and it had been ignored. I hold out a small hope that it is getting less and less acceptable to be a bigot in public in the USA. It's about bloody time.

As far as free speech--sure Imus has a right to be an asshole. And the public has a right not to listen to his show or to patronize the sponsors who support him, and to tell his bosses he ought to be fired. He can still spout all he likes, but no one's obligated to give him a mike. That's not censorship, that's the free market. The public can and does reject a lot of products.
(I think Im probably preaching to the choir here.)

Best...avatar thingy...EVER

Hey did you make that avatar? Can I steal it? That's really really cool.
But I've got to wonder: he's been an asshole for years. Why are we only just noticing now?

I keep making that comment. It seems no one really did notice until now.

I put it down to the idea that, in general, human beans, they not so smart, and even less observant most of the time.
The whole point of freedom of speech, if you ask me, is because it makes it easier to spot the assholes on the horizon.

Truer words were never spoken.
Exactly.

Well, I dunno if we actually have a right to demand that he stop doing it.

But we certainly have a right to call him on it, and support neither his show nor his sponsors.
At what point does Billow Reilly get his head on that particular chopping block? Before or after Rush Limbaugh?
... But I admit that I find him amusing at times. He's far less irritating to listen to than Mark Levin.

Free speech

I agree that Imus is an asshole. I also agree that free speech reveals the truth and allows us to make informed choices about who we pay attention to.

But honestly why are so many people surprised that an old white fart like Imus is intimidated by some athletic young Black women with swagger and spouted off? Is this a big shock? A lot of men can't deal with strong, athletic women. You wouldn't believe the crap you can run across on online sports message boards about female athletes. If you want a snapshot of American male insecurity, talk to Joe Average about the WNBA, for instance.

The thing nobody is saying is that LOTS of guys feel the same way Imus does. He was just dumb enough to say it out loud. :-(

Re: Free speech

If you want a snapshot of American male insecurity, talk to Joe Average* about the WNBA

"Most of them are probably taller than I am."*

That's 98.3% of what I know about the WNBA. The other 1.7% is "Cheryl Swoopes played for one of their teams for a couple years, but I think she's retired. Is that a cool name, or what?"


* 5'8"
** Possibly not truly Joe Average (American), since I loathe basketball
I think CBS should can Imus.

He's always going to be a rich white man.

And forever after these women are going to be stuck with that name.

Imus should be canned and "persuaded" to donate a years pay to a charity of the Rutgers team choosing.

The guy is a husk supported only by his own hot air.

I woulda felt a lot better about the asshole in question if ...

... he'd offered to do some kind of public service work with or for the team, or gone to them personally, face-to-face with an apology in the first place, or not given his little "I'll bear my punishment with dignity" (implying it was unjust punishment) speech, or not used the royal plural (saying "We" kinda avoids taking personal responsibility, dontcha think?) in the first apology I heard ...

I gotta believe CBS has language in their corporate policies about not making racial statements and COULD legally fire him ... but come on, this is good publicity and he may even garner more listeners (and those advertising bucks) after this.

Assholes will always be with us, the problem is US and the way we let big corporations make money off the assholes and the controversies they create.

He made the comment as part of a regular show where he gets paid (is encouraged) to regularly insult people. Is anyone going to boycott CBS for fostering this kind of behavior? I'd guess not.
The problem I'm having is that he said it once. Al Sharpton went on CNN and repeated it half a dozen times, and that was just one interview. If Imus had said the N-word, it would not have been rebroadcast on every news outlet, let alone repeated by Sharpton. And Coulter's slur was rarely repeated - more often (that I saw) refered to as the F-word.

I guess they feel repeating a slur against women is acceptable. I don't find it so.

I'm also having problems with the coach (just now speaking as I write this) saying the Public University women are doing God's Work and such. They may very well be nice young ladies, but Blech.
Oooo!
The whole point of freedom of speech, if you ask me, is because it makes it easier to spot the assholes on the horizon.


*lusts after as a .sig line*

May I quote you?

HEE!
I stole it somewhere, I'm afraid. *g* So, er, sure.
Being a benighted outlander from frigid Canadia, I'd never heard of the guy until the foo-faraw today... and I'd have been perfectly happy to carry on not hearing about him, thank you.

-- Steve isn't much a fan of any shock-jock radio "personality" he's heard. They're too much like the obnoxious trolls on the Intertubes to make for comfortable listening...
There are times when drunken driving is viewed with alarm; and then the cycle moves on, and most people don't worry about it. There's a similar cycle for gambling. (Note: a bit under a century ago, Nevada became the first state to outlaw all gambling.)

Maybe there's also a "being an asshole in front of an audience" cycle.

Also, there's definitely a turn of the political cycle(s). Conservatism is going out of fashion; and maybe "Oh, you're just being politically correct" is no longer as strong a counter to complaints about rightwing assholes. Maybe it will become respectable to be a leftwing asshole.
The whole point of freedom of speech, if you ask me, is because it makes it easier to spot the assholes on the horizon.
Especially now that we have Googleschaden (a neologism that Jon Carroll called to my attention) to make it easy to find out what people have been saying when they weren’t worrying about what a widespread audience would think.
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