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madder rose

My back is really killing me, so I am coveting rosebushes. I have this mad plan of putting together a literary rosegarden someday...

[22:35] matociquala: I am coveting rosebushes
[22:35] matociquala: *covets*
[22:35] katallen: ::grins::
[22:35] matociquala: It would be a positive thing about homeownership.
[22:35] katallen: I totally understand the whole rose garden thing
[22:36] matociquala: I actually have a terrible painful conceit in mind.
[22:36] matociquala: I want to do a literary rose garden.
[22:37] matociquala: So, roses Karen Blixen, and Mark Twain, and Christopher Marlowe, and William Shakespeare...
[22:37] katallen: neat way to pick
[22:37] matociquala: and Faust and the Alchemist
[22:37] matociquala: This is Karen Blixen:
[22:37] matociquala: http://www.jacobsplant.nl/images/afbeeldingen/productimg/1987_1.jpg
[22:38] katallen: pretty
[22:38] matociquala: It's a tacky idea, but I'm utterly in love with it. *g*
[22:38] katallen: heh
[22:39] katallen: ::hopes some of them are scented ones::
[22:39] beatriceeagle: Mm, scented roses.
[22:39] matociquala: *g*
[22:39] matociquala: inded.
[22:39] beatriceeagle: I have a Thing for roses.
[22:39] matociquala: If none of them are, I will find some shrub roses or ramblers
[22:40] matociquala: This one is Kit's.
[22:40] matociquala: http://www.osmond-riba.org/lis/journal/2006_02_12_j_archive.htm#113994985013628035
[22:42] matociquala: The best bit is, Robbie Burns is a...
[22:42] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=5229
[22:42] matociquala: ...white rose.
[22:42] matociquala: ;-)
[22:43] matociquala: Will gets two:
[22:43] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?i=A41142&tab=10
[22:43] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=2562
[22:43] beatriceeagle: Ooh, I like the second one.
[22:43] matociquala: Some other contenders:
[22:43] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?i=A4315&tab=10
[22:44] matociquala: That's also known as Anne Hathaway
[22:44] matociquala: I think it may be the best of the lot.
[22:45] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=48136
[22:45] matociquala: The problem is, so many of them are pink, and pink roses are not my favorite
[22:45] katallen: clearly writers are pinkos :)
[22:45] matociquala: Hee
[22:45] beatriceeagle: XD
[22:45] matociquala: Spenser's is supposed to be strongly scented
[22:45] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?i=A30135&tab=1
[22:46] matociquala: Chaucer's is nice:
[22:46] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?i=A1112&tab=1
[22:46] beatriceeagle: Okay, you've sent my mind spinning into a place where roses have personalities and interact with CM cast members. Thank you.
[22:47] matociquala: "John Keats" is supposed to be highly disease resistant.
[22:47] beatriceeagle: Also, that rose looks fluffy. I like it.
[22:47] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?i=A21492&tab=1
[22:47] katallen: oh yes
[22:47] matociquala: Am I meant to find that cruelly ironic?
[22:47] katallen: heee
[22:47] matociquala: And I have to say, much as he annoys me--
[22:47] katallen: probably reassuring (you don't want it turning it's toes up just as it's really flowering)
[22:47] matociquala: I would plant George's rose just for the looks...
[22:47] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?i=A18757&tab=1
[22:47] matociquala: (LOL)
[22:47] matociquala: Kat wins the internets
[22:48] beatriceeagle: XD
[22:48] katallen: okay, Spenser will clash badly with Marlowe
[22:48] matociquala: Hee
[22:48] matociquala: We'll put George in between...
[22:48] matociquala: Or maybe Karen.
[22:49] katallen: that should help
[22:49] matociquala: One of these guys should have a *red* rose.
[22:49] matociquala: it should be Robbie!
[22:49] matociquala: This is Ben's:
[22:49] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=11732&tab=10
[22:50] katallen: yes, someone has to have named one of those red velvet roses after a writer
[22:50] matociquala: Lucifer is supposed to be orange-red, and so is Mark Twain
[22:50] matociquala: But they're both old roses, and really hard to find
[22:51] katallen: ::says nothing about hunting them down and grabbing cuttings::
[22:51] matociquala: Oh, look at this lovely tatterdemalion:
[22:51] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=11235
[22:51] katallen: roses - by any means necessary!
[22:52] matociquala: There's also an old rose Faust that's supposed to be red.
[22:52] beatriceeagle: I'm drooling over that rose. It is pretty.
[22:52] matociquala: I like the color-changers.
[22:52] beatriceeagle: Uh-huh. Plus, purple and yellow are awesome together.
[22:53] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=27141
[22:53] katallen: that is pretty stunning
[22:53] matociquala: Not actually named after her, but...
[22:54] katallen: we had one that colour at the previous house
[22:54] katallen: (here we only have a 'mills and boon' in a big pot)
[22:55] beatriceeagle: We have no roses.
[22:55] katallen: (that's a nice red ::grins:: )
[22:55] beatriceeagle: I had a little one for a while, but I went away to camp and nobody watered it.
[22:55] katallen: eeep
[22:55] matociquala: Ooo, this is sweet.
[22:55] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=3137
[22:55] matociquala: Oh, I found a yellow
[22:55] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=6315
[22:56] matociquala: AH!
[22:56] matociquala: SCORE!
[22:56] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=24086&tab=1
[22:57] katallen: oh lush
[22:57] beatriceeagle: Ooh.
[22:57] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=35906
[22:57] matociquala: no photos, alas
[22:58] matociquala: But this is nice...
[22:58] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=11340
[22:58] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=55
[22:59] beatriceeagle: That was your twentieth rose link.
[22:59] matociquala: Hee
[22:59] katallen: ooo she climbs and she bushes
[22:59] matociquala: No photo of this one...
[23:00] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=6418
[23:00] beatriceeagle: Also, the second Agatha Christie is pretty.
[23:00] matociquala: But!
[23:00] matociquala: Another red!
[23:00] matociquala: Victor Hugo #2 is a winner
[23:00] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=18218
[23:00] beatriceeagle: Oh, wow.
[23:00] matociquala: more photos....
[23:00] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=18218&tab=10
[23:01] matociquala: I want that one. *g*
[23:01] katallen: mmm
[23:02] beatriceeagle: So very red...
[23:02] matociquala: I could fill up a garden just with roses named "canterbury"
[23:02] katallen: (and I'm sat here thinking that you'll need those neat little stick in the ground plaques)
[23:02] matociquala: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=49585
[23:03] matociquala: Hee.
[23:03] matociquala: I would.
[23:03] katallen: I wonder if they'd do a book shape ::giggles::
[23:03] matociquala: I would probably have to be sensible and pick four or five. *g*
[23:03] beatriceeagle: Who needs sensibility?
[23:03] katallen: bah...
[23:03] matociquala: People with budgets, alas....
[23:03] katallen: that's barely a flowerbed worth
[23:04] matociquala: eight or nine?
[23:04] matociquala: *g*
[23:04] beatriceeagle: Okay. Eight or nine would give you room to work with.
[23:04] katallen: start with half a dozen and expand
[23:04] matociquala: Fair!
[23:04] beatriceeagle: Plus, if you took all of them, they'd take over the house.
[23:05] matociquala: Well, that would be the plan.
[23:08] katallen: I probably have some rose dna... number of times I ripped myself running around them
[23:08] katallen: oh, yes, bigger thorns are way better than lots of small ones
[23:08] katallen: ::shares seriously important rose growing advice::
[23:09] matociquala: Yes
[23:09] matociquala: A few big thorns are much better than a fistful of barb wire
[23:09] katallen: plus they're kind of pretty
[23:09] katallen: rhino horn shaped
[23:10] matociquala: Yes.
[23:11] matociquala: Bea, you can come visit me when I have a place and share the roses
[23:12] beatriceeagle: Aww. I might have to steal them, though.
[23:13] matociquala: Hee
[23:13] matociquala: Well, that's what cuttings are for...
[23:13] beatriceeagle: Although actually, I don't know what I'd do with stolen roses.
[23:13] katallen: a stolen rose garden!
[23:13] beatriceeagle: Perfect for romantics and criminals.
[23:15] matociquala: Practical!


Obviously you must come to Portland during the Rose Festival, the better to eye the roses in their full glory in the Rose Test Gardens.

oh yes. the Rose Bardens are great!
*g* I live a mile from Elizabeth Park....
I have a fabulous climbing rose called _Don Juan_. Red and fragrant!

You don't actually need much room for a rose garden. Just a lot of sunlight. My garden is about the size of a postage stamp, but it has an hottub, a raised bed of hummingbird flowers, vines on the fence, a small three-tiered stone waterfall, and an arbor with a rose climbing over it, as well as a stone patio for our outdoor dinners.
That sounds very pretty. *g*

Where I live now, I have... windowsills. *g*
And the other serious rose advice I know is -- remembering to stop and smell them is a good thing :)
Or eat them!

(If you are a cow.)
::hides lightly nibbled rose::

Why should cows have all the fun :)

Mmm. Yes. It is the major damned flaw in apartment living.
There's a poison garden just north of here, in the grounds of Alnwick Castle; Val McDermid launched her new book there, last month...
Yes, and the Dutchess of Northumberland wrote a creepy fairy-tale book about it, too. (At least, it says on the cover that she did. She didn't draw the pictures, though.)

It's not the best writing ever, but it's so pretty, preciouss.

I want a poison garden too, actually. Or what I refer to as a "Goth Garden." Flowers: White, blood red, and dark violet/maroon/black, preferably from poisonous plants--interplanted with poppies and foxglove and monkshood and all sorts of lovely things....

I suspect I should plant it on the opposite side of the house from the herb garden, huh?
You know, I might actually try growing roses just to do this.

Once I have money again, anyway.

The honeybees need your help!
Thank god SOMEBODY laughed.
I've fantasized about having (a) a poison garden (fenced -- though actually so many flowers are toxic it really hardly matters, but to keep out kids and dogs, etc.) with lotsa foxglove and the like, and (b) a garden with flowers that have names of family and friends, e.g., there's an Esther tulip, plenty of variants of Sue, etc. I thought of sending the Bellona tulip to Chip Delany, heh. Potted, you know.
Mmm. Yes. There's a mountain laurel with my name.

It's a pretty one, too.

My best friends have one. They are nice people. *g*