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don't have to speak anymore

Somebody just emailed to ask me, in light of Amazonfailers saying how overpaid (and wealthy and greedy) authors are, how long it takes me to write a book. She phrased it in terms of 40 hour work weeks.

I had to answer, I have no idea.

My schedule for today:

6:30 am: wake up, roll over, push cat off laptop and start writing Grail.
8:30 am: 771 words! Good enough. Time to quit and go for a run, do some yoga, shower, eat breakfast. (While running, work on plot elements for Shadow Unit.
9:30 am: back at the laptop, reading a book for review, answering business emails, waiting for mailman, proofreading galleys
12:00 pm: Run errands--bread, dental floss, vitamins, kitty drugs 
1:00 pm: Go to gym, swim, think about a scene for The Steles of the Sky.
2:00 pm: Eat a heck of a lot of sushi.
3:00 pm: Home, working. Write that scene for The Steles of the Sky (already written in my head.) Write another portion of the scene for Grail. Damn character still not dead.  Maybe tomorrow morning.
6:00 pm: Fuck this, I'm starving.
7:00 pm: Brush dog and watch Memento
9:30 pm: take out trash, take dog out, feed dog (OMG we need dogfood yesterday), crap cats have no water, can nobody in this place but me wash a dish?
10:00 pm: answer work emails, pet cats, back to reading that book for review. I thought I might get the review written tonight, and I still might, but I wrote this blog post instead.
Midnight: fall the hell over.

I get paid somewhere around $12,000 for a book. That's before my agent and the IRS get their cut. If you want to know how I write three books a year? That's how. If you want to know why I write three books a year....

Yeah.

You know what? It's a great job, but I'm in it for the love, not the money.

You know, publishing runs on tiny little margins. I happen to think a book that takes me something like three years of my life to write (albeit intermittently) is worth $15.99 if you want to read it as soon as it comes out. (And I also think $4.99 is a fair price for backlist.)

See, only about 10% of the cost of a book is paper and ink. There's all that effort that goes into it, too--the effort of people like me, and my editors, and my copyeditors, and the cover artists, and the book designers.

Every single one of those people has to pay rent and eat. Some of them, poor sots, live in Manhattan, because that's where they keep the publishing industry these days.

I'm a professional, with years of experience and practice behind me. I have a shiny rocketship or two and a couple of cheeseboards that say other people also think I'm halfway good at my job.

I am not a bestseller. I am a midlist author with no spouse, no means of support other than writing, and no family money. I work hard.

(I'm not actually interested in discussing this topic; nor am I interested in arguing it. As far as I'm concerned, the current slapfight is exactly as boring as every other slapfight I've ever seen, and I don't have time to moderate a slapfight. But I did think it would be nice to give a solid answer to the question "So how long does it take you to write a book?" So here it is, and I am taking the unusual step (for me) of screening comments from non-friends.)

And if you excuse me, I have to go read this book so I can turn in this damned book review.



ETA And it's one AM and I finished that book finally. Night, guys. </b>

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No artist is paid what their work is worth.
My advances are about the same as yours. It takes me about 200 total hours to write, revise, and proof a book. That's not such a bad hourly wage, but I can only get about two of them done per year, and as you well know, the payment cycle is over two years long, less agent commission.

So, erm, not a lot of money. Especially not per annum.
And frankly? Very little of my income comes from Amazon, and even less from ebooks.

A hell of a lot of it comes from supermarkets and airports, though.

It's a great job, but I'm in it for the love, not the money.

Yeah. But the money makes a love a lot easier. I made piles of money for my first coupla books, and was all enthusiastic about writing more; then I made significantly less for my next few, and have since downgraded my novel-writing to part-time.

Some of that creeping disinterest would have happened anyway, as I'm not good at doing the same thing endlessly. (And I'm certainly not protesting my hard luck; on the contrary, I was ridiculously fortunate.) But people who claim that author pay doesn't matter because Real Writers do it for the love are self-deluding morons. Less money for writers means fewer good books.
Personally? I would love to be able to afford to write one book a year. That seems reasonable to me.
Reminds me of people who see a some poor academic slave of a lecturer teaching four three hour lecture classes in a killer piece-work term, and say wooooooooo, that slacker dude is only working twelve hours a week.
(Have heard.)
Been there. Done that. Heard that song. Didn't like it then; don't like it now. Doesn't mean we won't hear it again, though.
I, for one, am totally fine with paying $15.99, or $21.99, to read a book that's taken you three or five or however many years of your life to write. You write things that nobody else can write, and they make me think, and transport me to a different time and place, and there is nobody else who can do your job, and I'm ... not proud, but joyful or pleased or something glad to be in a position to benefit from it, and support you (and your publishers for having the good sense to make your books available to me.)

Anyway, I don't expect or want a cookie for thinking that authors and artists who create things that change the way we see the world, or that simply amuse us for a time, deserve to be paid well, and that their work is worth my money. I just, I wish you all didn't have to deal with quite so many people who seem to think that you should work for nothing or that, at any rate, they should not need to support you, even though they want to consume your work.
You know, I've got a hell of a socialist streak. I'd just be happy with healthcare, a living wage, time to see my family, and no constant sensation of impending death by overwork.
Bwah? Wealthy? Greedy? Overpaid? Authors?!?

How can anyone who actually reads anything even say that?

The only authors who actually get to "wealthy" have tie-ins like movies. Overpaid is highly subjective - is Stephen King (for example) overpaid? Depends on what you think of his writing. But he sure didn't start out that way. Greedy? That's as subjective as overpaid.

Yeesh. Idjits.
Sometimes, in nasty moments, I feel like John Grisham and Stephen King and Dan Brown are overpaid (best-selling authors whose books I don't like).

But when you come down to it, that kind of earning is about the most honest there is. Nearly every penny that reaches the author was voluntarily handed over by a customer who knew that author was the target (probably overestimated how much of it went to the author, actually). My libertarian side insists that that can't be too evil. No matter how little I like their books.

Depending on where you draw the line on "wealthy" I'm not sure you're completely right that it never comes primarily from writing. Heinlein's did, back when; he did have a couple of movie involvements, but those weren't a big source of his wealth. And I wonder what Tom Clancy's books would look like; there have been several movies, but have they been tremendously successful? Oh, I know -- W.E.B. Griffin. Repeated NYT bestseller and lots and lots of backlist in print, and no movies that I can think of.

One of the things authors have the least ability to negotiate with publishers is royalty rates. So being "greedy" won't help much there. Now, if "greed" gets you to work hard and write good books faster, maybe it will pay off -- or maybe you'll burn out and produce hackwork, if your heart isn't in it. Nothing is certain in this business.
I just saw Memento is psych! :D

Don't let dumb people bug you. "Better to write for yourself and have no public than to write for the public and have no self." -Cyril Connolly *stolen off of CM's wikiquote*
Just like I can't imagine not thinking about stories all the time, it must be really hard to imagine thinking about them all the time.

I have a 15 hour work day, sometimes, because of story building in my head...and have been in an 11+ year training program.
As a fast reader, I bemoan how long it takes for someone to WRITE a book vs how long it takes me to read it and go "moar plz?"

And as someone who buys well over 20 books a month even if she does read too much on the internet these days, sure it would be nice if they were cheaper.

But they can't be. I'd actually rather pay more, because I just want you (nonspecific author-you, it's not all on your head!) to give me more to read! I consider this MUCH more important than you working a nine to five job that pays rent. (Life is much simpler when it's all about ME, what can I say? >_> )

Really, though, I just have to say that "Write another portion of the scene for Grail. Damn character still not dead. Maybe tomorrow morning." made me laugh and laugh. I love reading author blogs for lovely lovely bits like that.
I tried, I really did. But just barely got to the fight scene.
For me the question of how much I'll pay to read something is moot; I'm a librarian. Most of what I read is checked out to me, and all I pay is the tax that allows me to enjoy a free library card.

So there, Amazon.

ETA: Just realized this may not sound great to an author who depends on people buying what they write. Rest assured, I do buy the book if I happen to love it.
I may be wrong about this, but I believe that libraries are a great source of author income - libraries after all must buy the book before they can lend it. And books bought and checked out often are sometime bought more than once. So. Authors like libraries.
Creative jobs are very hard to compare to routine jobs. People who don't do much creative work probably have no idea. (I consider software development a kind of creative work, and despite being done in an office for an employer mostly, it's still true that you can't force good code to come exactly when you need it, and you can't push the hours too hard when doing more creative parts of the work. Other bits you can push harder on and get useful output. I think it's more subject to pushing than writing for most people.)
Software development is indeed creative. I've lived with a programmer for 3 decades and he's always staring off into space writing in his head. The time he spends at a computer is nothing to the time he devotes to the task. I can take him anywhere and he's content to work away happily to himself. There's always something to he's working on.
"But Stephen King is a millionaire!"

So you know, all writers are millionaires! And all writers live in Bangor, ME!
Unless they are female, in which case they live in the UK and are billionaires, because JK Rowling is a billionaire!

Or is that if they're Americans, they're Stephen King, and if they're Brits, they're Rowling? I can never keep you all straight, you filthy rich writer people.

Also: Music should be free!

AND:

Hey, my kid could paint that!



I do a lot of writing scenes in my head on the bus. Anyway, my opinion is that the people who think novelists are overpaid are the same ones who think that a blogger (who doesn't get paid at all unless there are ads) should either 1) Be Pure, meaning no ads, 2) Write what they want rather than what amuses the blogger, or 3) Both. Now, if you want enough traffic to justify ad revenue, by all means give the people what they want. But that means writing something popular, NOT letting Random Q. Internetguy tell you what to do. If I'm not getting paid for my blog (which I'm not) that means I am writing for my own amusement, which means you get both my political opinions and anecdotes about my cats.

The economics of it is partially why modern poetry is sometimes so inaccessible to people (though it's not as much so as its reputation). No poet makes money off it, so they are writing mostly for themselves and other writers (often, other poets of their particular ilk, like songbirds singing for a mate of their own species), and the in-jokes are way convoluted. So if you want there to be poetry that is less arcane, find some you like and buy it.
Also, if you want books to be cheaper, find some you like, and buy them.

Economies of scale work in publishing too.
I'm sorry to say that I don't buy nearly as many books as I used to. I read television scripts all day at work and now reading (even though it used to be my favorite thing in the world) now reminds me of work.

Too many people assume that because the top earners in a field (look at actors) make millions, everyone in the field does too. There are thousands of actors who have to supplement their acting wages with all kinds of other jobs. I wish people would do their homework before saying silly things.
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