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March 2017



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Oi! Oi! Oi! Just mark me down as a member of the corrupt, exclusive elite.

--who can't write their way out of the proverbial, thankyew very much.

via ktempest, via nihilistic_kid

Some links from a friendly, helpful author's site run by our old friends, Publish America. (check the 'about us' section.)

Never Trust The Experts


Only Trust Your Own Eyes

Apparently, the argument is that the quality bar in science fiction and fantasy is so low that 'established' SFF authors will do anything to sucker new writers into submitting to established, paying SFF publishers--who won't publish 99.5% of what's submitted to them, so there's no point in a new writer submitting.

*scratches forehead*

Okay. Actually, I'd guess that the major publishers probably buy considerably less than one manuscript out of every 200--in SFF or any other genre. This is not because of elitism--publishers only make money if they discover new authors who will be popular and sell books, because the next Rowling and the next King and the next Irving and the next Gaiman gotta come from somewhere.

It's because the book isn't good, or the book doesn't fit, or the book isn't marketable. Or it's because the editor is mistaken. Or the editor just doesn't like the book.

But Publish America is still not your friend, as a struggling writer. Because it's not about being published, really. It's about writing well enough that people (meaning people who are not your relatives and childhood friends) will want to read what you write.

There are people who write amazing fanfiction and provide it free of charge on the internet. There are very good writers who submit to competitive little literary journals that only pay in prestige, or to semipro publications that pay in copies and whuffie, or a couple of bucks honorarium. There are writers who bust their humps and sell to Ellery Queen, or Harper's, or Asimov's. Or to upfront book publishers.

All those people are publishing to be read.

People who market books through vanity publishers--with the exception of folks who either have a captive audience (one of my college professors, may he rot) or people with a certain notoriety (like Wil Wheaton, apparently a very fine writer)--are not going to be read. And yes, Publish America says they're not a vanity press.

I think it's worthwhile making your own judgements, and I'd take the advice of people who don't stand to make any money off me over people who do, most of the time. Unless the person who stands to make money off me is my agent.

Such is life.


What an awesome concentration of ignorance!
Not ignorance, trickery. It's an open poison pen letter designed to counter the criticisms of their scam.
It's not so much ignorance as pure, unfiltered evil.
Wow. Just . . . wow.

I'd like to say something more intelligent than that, but my brain's still trying to catch up with the logic from out in left field. Check back with me later.
Well, let nothing get between PA and the Money.
Publish America is chiefly opposed to SF writers because SF writers are organized, and have the pay it forward tradition, and protect our own.


More from the PA message boards. http://www.publishamerica.com/cgi-bin/pamessageboard/data/lounge/1372.htm

It is *amazing* to me how brainwashed these people are.
I don't understand why they're even worrying themselves about these writers' associations. It's not like there's some rule that a person has to belong to one of these associations to be taken seriously.

I have the impression that the associations are partly social and partly intended to use collective clout to keep the publishing industry reasonably honest.

Are these Publish America people one of the "Preditors" the SFWA talks about?

(Statistics? Oh, yeah. Statistics. Back later.)
They're well known, where well known is a value equalling 'notorious.'
Uh, I read a fair amount of SF and Fantasy, and I would *not* say that those authors have less imagination than someone who writes a crime thriller or a historical novel.

Indeed, I sometimes think that it's more of a challenge because you have to make the characters *and* the world believable. You need to create the world and the world's rules and stick to them.

What I'm currently writing is a fantasy interwoven with historical and theological novel. I've probably stolen from everything, including the Bible, Faust and Wuthering Heights. I don't consider that as meaning that I'm lacking in imagination, only that these are themes which resonate with me (or my characters) and which I want to explore.

Pieces I've read from people in the LJ community, while SF and Fantasy, are far richer than many non-genre novels I've read.

And we're talking a reading *habit* here. Probably with a capital H ;)

I think I shall put Publish America on my pile on Swansea Bay. Now I just need an inventive way to kill them.

It's not really the whole genre they're bashing (though SFWA's definately on their black list.), but rather two specific SF/F writers who work very hard at exposing them as scam artists. One writes Star Trek novels to pay the bills, the other writes novels with a strong mythological influence. PA is not very subtle, but they're very annoyed. :)
Ahh, all now becomes clear.

Unlike the extract from one of their author's novels.

It reads as if it was written by a thirteen year old. Of course, maybe it was.