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March 2017



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Throw me to the velvet dogs of pop-star history.

eeee! The galleys for Hammered just showed up. And it brought the copy-edited manuscript for Scardown with it.

They want this when?

*dies laughing*

Well, good excuse not to finish the draft on Worldwired this week....


I love anyone who quotes from Dar Williams lyrics. :-)

Congratulations on getting the galleys. I'm sure it's an exciting time for you.
It is kind of shiny! And the book looks very pretty all bookish like that.

Gee, I like your icon...
Isn't it pretty? A very nice person who happens to be a published writer made it for me. :-=)
"If I wanted it tomorrow, I would have _asked_ for it tomorrow."

(Editors can sometimes be sweet-talked into extending deadlines on proofs and copy-edits.)
*g* Well, I've got a we'd-prefer-Friday-but-we'll-take-Monday. Which I can do without too much trouble. It's just tight.

Now, if the dayjob wanted overtime this week, I'd be in trouble....
"Now, if the dayjob wanted overtime this week, I'd be in trouble...."

That's one of the joys of self-employed life. I can tell overtime to take a hike.
*nod* I'm working on that part. If the YA series or the option novel sells, I can just about swing it, I think.

Which'd be good, because two books a year *and* a day job is not conducive to health or sanity.

Do you have a second career--ie, other than writering? (curious)
"Do you have a second career--ie, other than writering? (curious)"

Well, the sovereign State of Maine has granted me an architect's license, after investigating my technical knowledge and moral probity. Shows you how misguided government can be.

Other than that, I live off my wife.
Other than that, I live off my wife.

That's a great writerly tradition, that....

Unfortunately, I married a school teacher. What was I thinking?
That he's cute?

Even if he lives in Vegas?
Yeah, the editor always gets sweet-talked into the extension, but the problem is the editor isn't the one who has to deal with the aftermath. It's the managing editor in production who has to deal with the copyedited ms., and she's probably pulling her hair out because she only has 1-2 DAYS to turn that puppy around herself.

The editor never checks with the M.E., then turns production into hell.

I've been on the production end of the stick for twenty years, and let me tell you, it ain't roses.

I'll bet if you have less than a week to turn around your copyedited ms., it's because production is running late because the editor screwed up the schedule on the production end by pushing a deadline at some point. Production always has to make up that lost time, without fail, and without complaint. Oh, and produce perfect books.

Don't get me started.
It's remarkable how business practices repeat themselves throughout the various sectors of the business world. I swear that's happened in my company, even though it's videogames rather than books. It's like everyone's in their own little hole digging away, and not paying attention to the fact that they're throwing the dirt in someone else's hole.
"The editor never checks with the M.E., then turns production into hell."

Artificial deadlines abound.

As far as I can tell, publishing thrashes around in a sea of crisis management. "Wait until it becomes a crisis, then rush a solution." That's largely an impression from the outside, looking in. But my publisher had the manuscript for my first novel for a year, then offered to buy it, then sat on it for another year and a half before putting it out. So why did they want revisions on a two-week deadline? Proofreading the typeset version in a week, when I wasn't even in town when the manuscript arrived on my front porch without notice? Second book, about a year between acceptance (and check) and the copy edit. Again, they wanted it back in two weeks....

Hey, I spent three years in the army. "Hurry up and wait" is a well-known concept.
Actually, no, real deadlines abound in publishing. The only "artifical deadlines" are created by people who don't realize that if they don't take a look at the production schedule, the book will end up late to the printer -- then all the rushing breaks out.

Two weeks is a standard deadline; copyeditors and line-editors (and proofreaders) are only given two weeks, too.

I could try to explain to you why your publisher probably "sat on" your ms. for a year or a year and a half, but you're not going to believe me. Guess what the real reason probably is?

Yours isn't the only book they're handling. ;)

Everything in its time. And everything has a place in the queue. You have to wait, sometimes.

And, btw, a good editorial/production cycle does indeed take 9 months to one year, still. Why? (1) marketing (which has to be done a long time before the book comes out, but they can't market something they don't know exists, so, yes, they need a ms.), and (2) editing and producing a book well can't be done overnight, no matter what you want to believe. Pixies don't do it while you sleep and trained professionals are required at every step (despite the myth that anyone who "can read real good" can be a professional proofreader, copyeditor, typesetter, fill-in-the-blank).
I can certainly tell I couldn't copy edit well. I've had good copy edits, and bad ones, and I know I couldn't do it.
This is why I'm semiretired from copyediting -- it eats your brain after 20 years. Managing copy editors, this I can still do (and fixing botched copyedits -- sigh).

NYU still uses my treatise on copyediting (from my website) for their course, which I think is rather sweet. I still maintain what I said in it: Copy editors are a form of secret masters/mistresses of the universe, along with research librarians.
I think you're absolutely correct.

And administrative assistants at universities. If you yanked every secretary from every institute of higher learning, and translated them bodily into heaven (as many of them deserve) the entire planet would shut down within five years.
Ooooh, shiny galleys.

They need to hurry up with that cover art. Tell them your legions of rabid fans demand it.