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you told me again you preferred handsome men, but for me you would make an exception

We had really good sandwiches for dinner last night. We'd talked about going to Arby's, but I decided to stop at the grocery store on the way home from work and get sandwich stuff again. And they had something nearly like Portugese rolls. Portugese rolls, for those not in the know, are a dry, crusty, somewhat chewy, flavorful sort of white bread roll that you can get easily in the Northeast, and not generally in the Southwest. I miss them a lot.

Anyway, I bought those and some roast beef, and Heinz 57 sauce, and cheddar cheese (not very good cheddar, but I am in Nevada; it limits the choices. At least it wasn't orange, which can be a challenge around here), and some creamy horseradish sauce. (I loathe mayonnaise, but I like horseradish sauce all right.)

And a chocolate cake. *g*

And lo there were sandwiches, and they were good.

They were sort of exactly like Arby's sandwiches if Arby's sandwiches weren't gross.



I know a lot of writers. And the thing about writers is that we have control issues, and we obsess about the stupidest shit. Partially, I think this is because so much of what we do is outside our control.

Like standard manuscript format. It's really very easy, and it makes short fiction editors happy when they get a sub in Courier twelve point left-justified right-ragged double spaced with one- or one-and-a-half-inch margins, with a name and title and page number on every page but the first, and a name and address and so forth on the very first page in the upper left-hand corner.

It's really not hard. And yet a lot of writers won't do it, for whatever reason. (Get over yourselves. It looks unprofessional. You probably go to work in flip flops, too.)

Book editors (and agents) don't even seem to care about the Courier part, in my experience, as long as you give them something easily legible and not too weird looking. Garamond or Times or Bookman. 

But I have it on good authority that the production people (the book designers and copyeditors and so forth) do care about courier, for a very simple reason: there's lots of room to write on a manuscript that's in Courier. So it's courteous to the people who have the most impact on how your book is presented to give it to them in a nice fixed-width font.

Anyway, really, this is not a dissertation submittal. Just give 'em something they can read, and tell at a glance how long it is, and if they drop it and five other MSs on the subway and get them jumbled together they can sort them out, and you too can be a slushpile hero.

Anyway, that's the sort of thing that writers obsess about to avoid actually, you know, writing.



Progress notes for 4 August 2005:

"Lucifugous"

New Words: 338
Total Words: 1964
Pages: 9


Reason for stopping: Having done the setup, now I need to figure out how the locked dirigible part of the locked dirigible mystery works. Of course, the mystery is sort of something for the characters to be doing while the smut plays out, but still. It does help if the plot works.
Mammalian Assistance: the mastiff was begging. so I gave him a banana. and then he was all like "What do you expect me to do with THAT?" And then he ate it, and smelled of bananas.
Stimulants: sencha
Exercise: none. I should probably do something about that, but I have been both exhausted and achy lately. It's probably West Nile Virus. :-P
Mail: rejection from ASIM. Also, Sci Fi Wire has the filet of an interview with yours truly up today.
Today's words Word don't know:  n/a
Words I'm surprised Word do know: isinglass
Tyop du jour: the rumpled dovers stripped back to reveal a bottom sheet scalloped with creases. Not the most comfortable sleeping surface I can think of.
Darling du jour: n/a
Books in progress, but not at all quickly: China Miéville, Iron Council; Richard Overy, Russia's War: A History of the Soviet War Effort, 1941-1945; Jack Kerouac, On the Road; Kathryn Allen, The Middlemost Child 
Interesting research tidbits of the day: passenger airship floor plan.
Mean things: I threw an old lady off an airship.
Other writing-related work:  Another 50 pp of Middlemost fussed at last night. Also, "The Something Dreaming Game" rewritten and submitted.

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When I write, I like to do it in Courier. I have vision issues, and the extra space really helps me see the text on the screen a lot easier.

Go Courier, go!
Likewise.

Blind as a mole, and I love Courier because I CAN READ IT on the screen.
As fastidious as I am about everything else concerning SMF, I always wind up sending manuscripts out in Times New Roman unless the GLs specifically ask for Courier. I think this is because (well, aside from not paying attention) the fact that TNR is a lot easier for me to read so it's the font I'm using when I write and edit...and I just tend to leave it that way unthinkingly when I mail stuff out.
Ditto, actually.

---L.
"...the thing about writers is that we have control issues, and we obsess about the stupidest shit."

Yes, yes, yes!
I could send you some Portuguese rolls. And sweet bread. Just let me know.

I know it wouldn't be the same as fresh, but we could overnight it. It'd be close. :)
*g* I'd rather come visit.
But I have it on good authority that the production people (the book designers and copyeditors and so forth) do care about courier, for a very simple reason: there's lots of room to write on a manuscript that's in Courier. So it's courteous to the people who have the most impact on how your book is presented to give it to them in a nice fixed-width font

It's not exactly that -- you have the same margins whatever font you use. It's that a fixed-width font makes it really easy to calculate the page-count for a final book and how it will be affected by changes in typeface and design.
You're not necessarily writing in the margins.

There's more space between letters in a fixed-width font. Thus, more room for pencil marks.
I didn't know about Production's desire for Courier font. Interesting.

Again, thanks for teaching me something useful.
Both barbarienne and deannahoak say it's so.
Anyway, that's the sort of thing that writers obsess about to avoid actually, you know, writing.

I ponder Courier because I have three versions, Dark, vanilla, and New, and they all look different on the screen and more importantly, print differently on my trusty LaserJet.

I recall feeling surprised that my first agent sent out what I felt was a sub-par printout of CODE to editors. It was in Courier New, double-spaced, with one-inch margins and the headers and all that, but something was missing that I can't recall and I thought it mattered. Apparently, it didn't.

Said agent also told me to not bother printing mss on 24-pound rag paper, as was advised by several manuscript formatting articles. He said all it added was weight and thickness, while offering no significant improvement in appearance or ruggedness. This saved me some money.

I do tend to stick to paper brightness factors >90.
I use "new" because it looks better to me. I know <lj user='arcaedia"> doesn't care what the MS shows up in as long as it's got serifs and isn't, you know, American Uncial. *g* I'm not fussy about submissions, since what I get are e-subs, but I do admit that I roll my eyes when I get one in times, or single-spaced, and I find myself going "You couldn't even be arsed to read the guidelines, could you?" Which is, I think, not the attitude one wants an editor looking at one's words with. One wants the words to stand on their own. I know some of my co-editors reject TNR submissions unread.
Yeah, writer buddies are always surprised when I tell them I rarely have a manuscript in SMF cross my desk.

What makes Courier so wonderful for copyediting is that the characters are spaced well, allowing you to spot typos more easily. Times is dreadful for copyediting--the letters are too squashed together.
Hrm. Maybe I should do my edits in courier then. I seem to miss a lot of typos when editing.

Thanks for the information!
... so you're saying that I should be WRITING instead of obsessing over how to properly format the stuff that I'm going to write someday?

Gads! *brain breaks*

(I tend to do things in New Times Roman unless it states otherwise. Courier looks wrong to me for some reason.)
I love your giant Dogge.

That is all.
He is a malodorous but gallant Dogge.
Well, I wear flip flops to work (as does the rest of my office, we are way laid back) but I do follow Standard Manuscript Format. :P
Before I printed out Mysterious Paris for hard-copy editing, I converted it all to Courier. It also makes it especially easy to see the curly quotes, as they print as black boxes (at least for me).

I do have one question about format.... Each of my chapters start with a substantial (such as 1-page) excerpt from one of the Inspector Jardin mysteries (excerpt written by me). If this were a bound book, I would hope the excerpt would appear in indented italics. But I'm thinking it this is wrong for manuscript format. I'm also not thrilled with underlining the entire excerpt. What do you suggest?
*g* let the book designer do her job.
I love printing drafts out in SMF. It's yet another way of playing writer. (As opposed to, you know, writing.)
As a copy-editor, I've never found that much relevant difference between Courier & TNR.
Ditto. Not that I disbelieve that others find it relevant, just that I don't.

---L.
When I print out a submission, I do it in Times New Roman. But these, days, I often do submissions via email, and let the publisher worry about fonts and formatting. Much easy for me, and it doesn't have to be re-keyed.
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