giddy[21:58]
matociquala: I think I may have figured out what this book is about.[21:58]
matociquala: Now I just have to finish it, so I can try to rewrite it so it doesn't suck.[21:58]
katallen: ::eyes Bear:: great[21:59]
matociquala: Sigh. At least I think it's mostly putting things in[21:59]
matociquala: I dunno about this voice thing.[21:59]
matociquala: *pokes book*[21:59]
matociquala: Half my readers seem very happy with how mannered it is, and the narrative voice.[22:00]
matociquala: And then kelliem, leahbobet, and stillsostrange are complaining that the characters don't have distinct narrative voices.[22:00]
katallen: ::nods::[22:00]
matociquala: And I'm like, um, no, they're not supposed to.[22:00]
matociquala: *sigh*[22:01]
katallen: it's a change[22:01]
matociquala: Well, they have distinct voices in dialogue, but not in narrative.[22:01]
matociquala: If you know what I mean.[22:01]
katallen: yes[22:02]
katallen: I'm in the not seeing a problem camp[22:02]
katallen: but in the scaring myself vein of today[22:02]
matociquala: I dunno. Something about this book makes it seem like it would be a parlor trick.[22:02]
katallen: ::nods::[22:02]
matociquala: I can do funny voices.[22:03]
katallen: it's a different book[22:03]
katallen: I was thinking today that Middlemost has this humour people like[22:03]
katallen: but... that's not going to be every book[22:03]
matociquala: Or possibly I'm just self-justifying because I am lazy and don't want to do that much work. *g*[22:04]
katallen: maybe[22:04]
katallen: ::grins:: you get to decide that[22:04]
katallen: ::pats::[22:05]
matociquala: *sighs*[22:05]
katallen: I think it makes sense though[22:06]
katallen: it's a kind of SF political thriller[22:06]
matociquala: I wonder if I've let my readers get lazy with the using of the funny voices. *g*[22:06]
matociquala: Do most books have funny voices? I kind of don't think so.[22:06]
matociquala: maybe I need hand puppets....[22:06]
katallen: heh[22:07]
cpolk: I don't think you need funny voices.[22:07]
cpolk: in dialogue, they are going to talk more like each other than they are going to talk like the amazons.[22:07]
cpolk: so there![22:07]
katallen: there may be a balance to be had ::shrugs::[22:07]
cpolk: *hugs the cute spies*[22:07]
matociquala: What I really want is to have the character's philosophical and perceptual differences stand out.[22:07]
matociquala: And not the funny voices.[22:08]
matociquala: And I mean, every review of the Jenny books has been like "Oh! And she does funny voices!"[22:08]
matociquala: Yeah yeah, watch what the other hand is doing.[22:08]
matociquala: :-P[22:08]
katallen: ::eyes Bear::[22:08]
katallen: eeep[22:08]
katallen: ::grins::[22:09]
matociquala: Huh.[22:09]
matociquala: I just thought of something I could do that would be tricksy, and literary, and oh so much work.[22:09]
matociquala: but it would be fun.[22:09]
katallen: what?[22:09]
cpolk: what?[22:10]
matociquala: Well, technically speaking, they're not *speaking* English.[22:10]
matociquala: They're speaking patois, and I'm translating.[22:10]
cpolk: that is true.[22:10]
matociquala: And Vincent should have more of an upper-class accent that Michelangelo.[22:11]
matociquala: It would be neat to have them sound different when they're apart, and more similar when they're together.[22:11]
matociquala: have them habituating to each other's speech.[22:11]
matociquala: But then I'd have to figure out what to do with Lesa.[22:11]
matociquala: And you *know* the readers wouldn't get it. [22:11]
katallen: nope, not a hope ::grins::[22:11]
katallen: Would Lesa be required as a control?[22:12]
matociquala: She'd have to have a different accent entirely.[22:12]
matociquala: I've given them all three different perceptual sets...[22:12]
katallen: ::nods::[22:12]
matociquala: And that's not enough for people.[22:13]
matociquala: Hrm.[22:13]
katallen: but in being whatever she is unchanging...[22:13]
matociquala: *nod*[22:13]
katallen: ::grins::[22:13]
katallen: it's insanity[22:14]
matociquala: It really is.[22:14]
matociquala: Fuckit, it'll be fun.[22:14]
matociquala: And critics can bitch about how I can't keep their voices straight[22:14]
katallen: ::grins::[22:14]
katallen: they will[22:18]
matociquala: I mean, what the hell, I have to print the whole thing off and go over it, right? It won't be that much more work to give them funny voices.[22:18]
matociquala: (Do it again! With funnier voices!)[22:18]
matociquala: *lies to self*[22:18]
katallen: do it if it amuses[22:18]
katallen: hell, I'm making this entire book eat itself[22:19]
matociquala: heee[22:19]
matociquala: It can't be a worse rewrite than B&I[22:19]
matociquala: I don't even know what's in that book anymore.[22:19]
matociquala: I can't remember.[22:23]
matociquala: I think I've stopped hating the book and have achieved cordial loathing.[22:24]
jmeadows: meep[22:24]
katallen: yay cordial loathing![22:25]
cpolk: whoo progress![22:25]
katallen: mine is waving shinies at me[22:25]
cpolk: (hey, didn't she hate B&I at some point?)[22:25]
katallen: if I can keep up the supply of twinkling for a bit I may just get out of it alive[22:25]
katallen: (she loathed it)[22:26]
katallen: I think it's sad but true that we all have strange cycles[22:26]
katallen: the highs and lows change variance... but we're all doomed[22:26]
jmeadows: *doomed*[22:27]
matociquala: I really loathe B&I.[22:27]
cpolk: I'm gonna sing the DOOM song![22:27]
matociquala: I still loathe it. *g*[22:27]
matociquala: that book is dead to me.[22:27]
katallen: ::pats::[22:27]
matociquala: Sing![22:27]
katallen: Bataan Death March[22:27]
jmeadows: *stares at Bear*[22:27]
matociquala: Hee. Middlemost is twinklyandshiny.[22:28]
cpolk:: Doom doom dooma doomy doom